The Thirtieth Random Discussion for (TPB)M (and may they R.I.P.)

DDA wrote in post #8784988
Lisa. Even if you think you suck, we here KNOW you are a great photog!!!!

I have to agree with this!

I promise, I'm not looking for pats on the back. I really am not. I'm just at a crossroads of sorts.

Things make me think...all the time. I was just as moved to examine my work when Neil posted his wedding shots as I was when I was watching the JA thing last night. Neil managed to shoot, process, post & make a book in record time. Why? Because his shots were technically correct. They looked great. THAT'S huge. I know it comes with experience. I'm only...I dunno how long I've had a camera...but maybe 4 years. I'd have to go look at the dates. When I was in school I took classes...but it was all b&w film 35mm stuff. The only thing I really remember from that was the stuff we used to do in the darkroom when the teacher wasn't present.

For months now I've been at the "I either need to move forward with this business" or "stop it all together". I've been trying to assess whether I've got the skills to really invest more than hobby time to this. That's all. It's just hard to make a decision.

I told Cat, two weddings ago that I was going to quit. I meant it too. Too many disasters/frustrations​.

If I could pinpoint where I go wrong, that would help. I shoot the same way every time. Two weddings ago, was such a frustrating wedding for me. And I spent almost 2 months "fixing it". It was also bad lighting. Either harsh sun or dappled forest bright and darks. Then my last wedding was perfect. Like my first wedding was. I dunno.

Anyway, sorry for thinking aloud. I'm just as confused as ever.

Great pontification, and I agree with you. Wholeheartedly.

I'm at that crossroads myself.
For me, though, it's almost like, do I want to even put forth the effort to try and improve myself? *shrug* I dunno anymore.

Part of me wishes that I had events/people to experiment on. The thing is, each event takes such a significant amount of time if I want to to look like "my signature style" that really, I just don't have time time/energy to do it for nc.

cfpackerfan wrote in post #8785108
Great pontification, and I agree with you. Wholeheartedly.

I'm at that crossroads myself.
For me, though, it's almost like, do I want to even put forth the effort to try and improve myself? *shrug* I dunno anymore.

I know. After talking to you, I feel like we're in very similar spaces with regards to this.

Hi.

Lisa perhaps you just have to come to terms with not being perfect .
Not meaning anything harsh but perfection is a mindset ,it can be cahanged start showing some of your not so steller work , just for a while till you can let it all go .I"m just saying this because I"ve been there , why do you think I show such crappy shots ?? I struggled with perfectionism way to long now I really want to be a good photog but most of all I want to like me .I find when I'm being so critical about my stuff I"m really being mean to myself . ...off soap box ..now .

try living a week or two without PS - just use lightroom to get the colours right in photos. It may help you think to get more technical images from the start - if you are that picky

Guineh wrote in post #8784466
I only got 40% on this... Do you know how Legislation works?

90%...got the first stupid one wrong...

Miniflash wrote in post #8785151
Lisa perhaps you just have to come to terms with not being perfect .
Not meaning anything harsh but perfection is a mindset ,it can be cahanged start showing some of your not so steller work , just for a while till you can let it all go .I"m just saying this because I"ve been there , why do you think I show such crappy shots ?? I struggled with perfectionism way to long now I really want to be a good photog but most of all I want to like me .I find when I'm being so critical about my stuff I"m really being mean to myself . ...off soap box ..now .

oh gosh Deb, I do. Sometimes I post my favorite shots here. But often I post something I really need an opinion on. I only recently started posting some of my non-texture work on here because I realized you guys probably thought I did nothing but textures. When in reality, it's about 1/80th of what I do. It's just that I want opinions on the texture shots so I post them. You guys see a lot of my garbage.

Harm wrote in post #8785153
try living a week or two without PS - just use lightroom to get the colours right in photos. It may help you think to get more technical images from the start - if you are that picky

That would kill me. And probably teach me a lot.

Permagrin wrote in post #8785174
You guys see a lot of my garbage.

I'm part of that crowd, and happy to be there...

sevillafox wrote in post #8784486
I concur on the media.

I remember many years back one of my friends died in a head on collision with a pulp truck. He had fallen asleep at the wheel. Our crappy town newspaper completely redid their paper after their normal deadline to print a picture of the kid's vehicle after it had plowed into the truck and had been reduced to a pile of metal by the collision and jaws of life used to get him out. His mom was an EMT. People so didn't need to see that.

I have to disagree. A photograph of the incident IS news, it's photojournalism. Personally if I chose to look into a story such as that I want to see it as it was in real life. I don't trust a reporter, often with an agenda,to tell me about it. If the reporter wants to sensationalize it or down play it they can in text but I can still see for myself. I was more saying papers are in business to sell papers, and most reporters, no matter how unbiased they seem, want to spread their opinion. Reporting the terrible wreck, photo included, is what I look to the media for. If there was a brake failure problem that is common but ignored, that could be part of the story. I have a problem when news media looks for something scary or sensational to sell more stories. "Pulp trucks, Americas deadly secret", "gun toting soccer mom...." that kind of trash.

DDA wrote in post #8784783
The bear is actually as old as me.. She was my favorite as I was a kid (she still is) Look at her eye which fell off and was glued back

Awww you should post here:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=422117

Permagrin wrote in post #8784788
I've been having WEIRD sci-fi dreams for the last two nights. I'm ready to stop. I don't like sci-fi! Z...if you are messing with my dreams, time to put them on a regular schedule.

PONTIFICATION TIME!

For those of you that shoot for pay, if you client is happy that's all that matters.

Lol it was not me.

Great pontification. Shall we etch the bold line in the back of your camera?

poppie guy wrote in post #8784917
I read it all.. nice comments. My nomination for best post of the day so far....

I second.

Okay Harm. I'm just about to process some renaissance fair shots. I wonder if I can do them in lightroom. I hate lightroom for processing. It'll be interesting to see.

Permagrin wrote in post #8785189
Okay Harm. I'm just about to process some renaissance fair shots. I wonder if I can do them in lightroom. I hate lightroom for processing. It'll be interesting to see.

hmmm...I am going to do it. At least some. Just regular processing. Then post them. Then see if you guys still think I'm a good photog w/o my processing magic. It'll be a good experiment. IF you PROMISE to be honest. I think you'll see a middle average, non-dazzling, no style photographer.