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With a 7D, is the ST-E2 redundant?

 
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Sep 30, 2009 09:17 |  #1

I use my ST-E2 on my XTi and I find it works great. But if I move to a 7D, the popup flash can replicate all the functions of the ST-E2 (plus more).

The only advantage I can think of is that the ST-E2 uses IR, so it doesn't tend to bother the subject (its just a tiny spot of red).

Thoughts? Will there be a rash of ST-E2s for sale as the 7Ds start being delivered?


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Sep 30, 2009 13:42 |  #2

I'm pretty new to the off-camera flash arena, but my guess would be that the benefit to the ST-E2 is that you can still hold it off camera using a shoe cord like the OC-E3 for those trickier arrangements. Thoughts?


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Sep 30, 2009 13:44 |  #3

dustyporch wrote in post #8733786 (external link)
I use my ST-E2 on my XTi and I find it works great. But if I move to a 7D, the popup flash can replicate all the functions of the ST-E2 (plus more).

The only advantage I can think of is that the ST-E2 uses IR, so it doesn't tend to bother the subject (its just a tiny spot of red).

Thoughts? Will there be a rash of ST-E2s for sale as the 7Ds start being delivered?

The ST-E2 has a focus assist lamp that can be used for focusing in the dark (that's what that red light is, it's not the IR used to send out the commands). The 7D, on the other hand, uses the built-in flash fired in a blitz of light pulses for focus assist which can be annoying to some people. So that would be one advantage of using the ST-E2. However, purely for controlling slave flashes, the built-in flash might have more of an advantage over the ST-E2.


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Sep 30, 2009 13:57 |  #4

no high speed sync with 7D commander, but controls 3 zones A-B-C. ST-E2 can HSS but only controls A-B.


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Sep 30, 2009 14:11 |  #5

windpig wrote in post #8735387 (external link)
no high speed sync with 7D commander

That's just stupid crazy.

I can't believe Canon would do that, or why the can't.

I don't use HSS currently, but to have to spend a small fortune to use HSS after purchasing a 7D, I'd be P!$$ed...

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Sep 30, 2009 14:15 |  #6

I didn't know the 7D wouldn't support HSS. That is a great reason to keep the ST-E2!


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Sep 30, 2009 16:19 |  #7

Anybody know if the on board flash control on the 40D can control a ST-E2?


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Sep 30, 2009 17:57 |  #8

windpig wrote in post #8736328 (external link)
Anybody know if the on board flash control on the 40D can control a ST-E2?


What on board flash control on the 40D ?


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Oct 01, 2009 08:39 |  #9

windpig wrote in post #8736328 (external link)
Anybody know if the on board flash control on the 40D can control a ST-E2?

I doubt it. That menu only controls the 580EX II and the 430EX II flashes so far. None of the previous flash models are supported either.


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Oct 01, 2009 10:22 |  #10

windpig wrote in post #8736328 (external link)
Anybody know if the on board flash control on the 40D can control a ST-E2?

Tested, it does not


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Oct 01, 2009 10:23 |  #11

dpds68 wrote in post #8736808 (external link)
What on board flash control on the 40D ?

The 40D (and other newer bodies) can control the newer (580EX II, 430EX II) flashes right from the LCD menu. If you have an older flash (or no flash at all) you simply get a message telling you there's no compatible flash.


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Oct 01, 2009 10:26 |  #12

dustyporch wrote in post #8735516 (external link)
I didn't know the 7D wouldn't support HSS. That is a great reason to keep the ST-E2!

I use HSS a LOT...
I haven't seen anything that says this... but I'm definitely waiting for a full review of this camera (and the passing of xmas) before I buy!


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Oct 01, 2009 11:34 |  #13

SMP_Homer wrote in post #8740757 (external link)
Tested, it does not

Interesting. So you're saying that you can control the ratio on/off, flash A:B ratio, etc. of the ST-E2 via the menu on the 40D?


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Oct 01, 2009 12:06 |  #14

PacAce wrote in post #8741183 (external link)
Interesting. So you're saying that you can control the ratio on/off, flash A:B ratio, etc. of the ST-E2 via the menu on the 40D?

he's saying you *cannot*




  
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Oct 01, 2009 12:38 |  #15

PacAce wrote in post #8741183 (external link)
Interesting. So you're saying that you can control the ratio on/off, flash A:B ratio, etc. of the ST-E2 via the menu on the 40D?

Not sure how you got that conclusion. Let's try again:

Q: Anybody know if the on board flash control on the 40D can control a ST-E2?


A: Tested, it does not. Trying to access this part of the 40D menu results in 'incompatible' flash error


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