Tim, how would you incorporate the lack of ACR support for the 7D into your workflow?
wdwpsu Senior Member 625 posts Joined Aug 2007 More info | Oct 11, 2009 02:30 | #31 Tim, how would you incorporate the lack of ACR support for the 7D into your workflow? Wedding and Event Photography ∙ Orlando, Florida ∙ DSWfoto.com
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kenshinvt Member 60 posts Joined Mar 2009 Location: Arlington, VA More info | Oct 11, 2009 14:59 | #32 wdwpsu wrote in post #8799458 Tim, how would you incorporate the lack of ACR support for the 7D into your workflow? Seconded. I didn't realize when I picked up a 7D the other week that a non-preliminary lightroom update wasn't available yet. I'm hoping it comes soon! 7D, 450D gripped, 17-55 2.8 IS USM, 70-200 f/4 L, 50 f/1.4, kit lens, 580 EX II
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tim THREAD STARTER Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Oct 11, 2009 15:32 | #33 ACR supports the 7D. It's only beta support but it works fine. I've heard the full release will result in better color and much better noise control. I've used DPP to play with the RAW files too, I don't like the tool or the workflow but it works fine. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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kenshinvt Member 60 posts Joined Mar 2009 Location: Arlington, VA More info | Oct 11, 2009 16:22 | #34 tim wrote in post #8801905 ACR supports the 7D. It's only beta support but it works fine. I've heard the full release will result in better color and much better noise control. I've used DPP to play with the RAW files too, I don't like the tool or the workflow but it works fine. I did upgrade to lightroom 2.5 and I see that there is that beta support for it. Opening the 7D raw files was then possible in lightroom for me. I've read, however, a lot of complaints that it looks bad in terms of color and noise control with this preliminary support, though the coming update should fix that. It doesn't look particularly bad to me, but I'm wary of doing any processing in it until the official release comes out. tim wrote in post #8752850
I noticed that too. I've been trying out AF point expansion with the center point selected for focusing, which I like so far. You have to enable it in the custom function menu before you can select it, but you can see it as a greyed out option in the focusing selection screen from the start. It has the center focus square and then four little squares on each side. I've just been considering it in focus whenever the little squares disappear after pressing the shutter button down halfway. 7D, 450D gripped, 17-55 2.8 IS USM, 70-200 f/4 L, 50 f/1.4, kit lens, 580 EX II
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wdwpsu Senior Member 625 posts Joined Aug 2007 More info | Oct 11, 2009 19:47 | #35 kenshinvt wrote in post #8802096 I did upgrade to lightroom 2.5 and I see that there is that beta support for it. Opening the 7D raw files was then possible in lightroom for me. I've read, however, a lot of complaints that it looks bad in terms of color and noise control with this preliminary support, though the coming update should fix that. It doesn't look particularly bad to me, but I'm wary of doing any processing in it until the official release comes out. I definitely noticed a yellow, almost orange tint to the pictures, as well as some blending. The pictures look great on the initial preview, but then kind of goes blahh.. Wondering if Adobe will have a patch in the coming weeks (doubtful) or if I need to take out the CD and try Canon DPP for the first time. Wedding and Event Photography ∙ Orlando, Florida ∙ DSWfoto.com
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Saxi Goldmember 2,781 posts Joined Mar 2008 Location: NH, USA More info | Oct 12, 2009 00:13 | #36 tim wrote in post #8801905 ACR supports the 7D. It's only beta support but it works fine. I've heard the full release will result in better color and much better noise control. I've used DPP to play with the RAW files too, I don't like the tool or the workflow but it works fine. ISO3200's fine, great even. ISO6400 isn't too shabby. With ISO12800 you lose quite a bit of detail, but if it's lose detail or have a blurry photo it's a pretty easy choice (assuming you don't want to add flash). I shot some 3200 shots myself and they seem to be pretty good, especially compared to the 50D where I couldn't' find anything usable at 3200 for the most part. 5D III, 24-105mm f/4 L, 135mm f/2 L, 70-200mm f/4 IS L, 580EX II
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Mike ugly when I'm sober More info | Oct 12, 2009 11:32 | #37 Thanks for the review Tim, I am seriously considering this as a future upgrade route, my 30D & 20D are good old troopers but getting a little long in the tooth. I think an upgrade will be on the cards in the new year (as long as my personal banker, Mrs G, allows it!! www.mikegreenphotography.co.uk
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tim THREAD STARTER Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Oct 12, 2009 15:50 | #38 I have two weddings next weekend, it should get a good workout then. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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Saxi Goldmember 2,781 posts Joined Mar 2008 Location: NH, USA More info | Oct 12, 2009 16:07 | #39 tim wrote in post #8808287 I have two weddings next weekend, it should get a good workout then. Looking forward to hearing your opinion then. 5D III, 24-105mm f/4 L, 135mm f/2 L, 70-200mm f/4 IS L, 580EX II
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tim THREAD STARTER Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Oct 12, 2009 17:29 | #40 I shoot with two bodies all day, so i'll use the 7D and a 40D. I'll use the 7D with the 17-55 most of the day, though i'll swap the Sigma 30 F1.4 and perhaps the 70-200 F2.8 IS on it as well. I've used it enough informally to be confident with it on a wedding day. I just have to find how to change a couple of things before the wedding, the 7D's so configurable it can take me five minutes to find things in the menus and CFs sometimes. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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Saxi Goldmember 2,781 posts Joined Mar 2008 Location: NH, USA More info | Oct 12, 2009 19:36 | #41 tim wrote in post #8808832 I shoot with two bodies all day, so i'll use the 7D and a 40D. I'll use the 7D with the 17-55 most of the day, though i'll swap the Sigma 30 F1.4 and perhaps the 70-200 F2.8 IS on it as well. I've used it enough informally to be confident with it on a wedding day. I just have to find how to change a couple of things before the wedding, the 7D's so configurable it can take me five minutes to find things in the menus and CFs sometimes. Good luck, can't wait to hear your results. My feelings on the 7D are very mixed right now, I still have my 50D and will keep it for a little while until I make a final decision on what I want to do. 5D III, 24-105mm f/4 L, 135mm f/2 L, 70-200mm f/4 IS L, 580EX II
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tim THREAD STARTER Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Oct 12, 2009 19:46 | #42 Most reviews i've read have been positive, and reviews from photographers who've used it a real weddings have been very positive. The think it's the best AF system in any Canon camera right now. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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Saxi Goldmember 2,781 posts Joined Mar 2008 Location: NH, USA More info | Oct 12, 2009 19:51 | #43 tim wrote in post #8809674 Most reviews i've read have been positive, and reviews from photographers who've used it a real weddings have been very positive. The think it's the best AF system in any Canon camera right now. I love the AF, the image quality is where I am on the fence. I've been seeing very hit and miss results. 5D III, 24-105mm f/4 L, 135mm f/2 L, 70-200mm f/4 IS L, 580EX II
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tim THREAD STARTER Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Oct 12, 2009 21:38 | #44 Saxi wrote in post #8809698 I love the AF, the image quality is where I am on the fence. I've been seeing very hit and miss results. How so? Are you looking at the RAW images at 100%, or are you judging by processed images/prints? Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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Saxi Goldmember 2,781 posts Joined Mar 2008 Location: NH, USA More info | Oct 12, 2009 21:45 | #45 tim wrote in post #8810378 How so? Are you looking at the RAW images at 100%, or are you judging by processed images/prints? Looking at raw images at screen resolution and processed images. It has been really hit or miss, I haven't quite made my mind up, the higher ISO definitely are better for noise, but 200 & 400 seems like it has more noise. I've seen it a few times, not sure if it is something that happens all the time, as I have been primary shooting at 100-200 ISO and 3200. I'm hoping this week I can do a lot more shooting. 5D III, 24-105mm f/4 L, 135mm f/2 L, 70-200mm f/4 IS L, 580EX II
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