Polarizer to use with Foundation Kit

Hey guys, question for the people using the Lee Foundation holder and filters, Im looking at the Lee 105mm Polarizer and wondering how this works with the foundation kit holder? do I have to buy the 105mm adapter ring too? does the filter holder clip onto the Polarizer?

Cheers
Will.

To use the Lee 105mm polarizer with the foundation kit, you will need the 105mm accessory threaded filter ring, NOT a 105mm adapter ring. The accessory ring screws onto the holder with the existing screws that fasten down the slots, and the 105mm polarizer screws into the accessory ring, much a "regular" filter threads onto the front of your lens. Also, you can use any brand 105mm polarizer (B+W, Heliopan) as well as the Lee filter.

No need to buy a 105mm adapter ring...not needed. Be sure to get the 105mm accessory threaded filter ring.

Cheers mate! that all makes perfect sense

Sorry to dig up an old post - and I may not get an answer on this one - has anyone used the Lee Circ Polarizer adapter ring on the Cokin Z Pro filter holder?

I am wondering if the screw holes line up - or it I'll have to change my holder as I've read so many bad reviews of the Cokin 105mm Circ Polarizer.

jeffmurray wrote in post #12315799
Sorry to dig up an old post - and I may not get an answer on this one - has anyone used the Lee Circ Polarizer adapter ring on the Cokin Z Pro filter holder?

I am wondering if the screw holes line up - or it I'll have to change my holder as I've read so many bad reviews of the Cokin 105mm Circ Polarizer.

Then get yourself the Lee 4x4 circular polarizer...slides into a slot and can be used in either the Lee or Z-Pro holder. The 105 polarizer really contributes to vignetting, especially on a FF body. You'd need to remove a filter slot or two, depending on your sensor size and focal length (at least with the Lee...can't confirm with the Z-Pro holder, but it is more prone to vignetting than the Lee).

Thanks argyle but the 4x4 can only be turned 90 degrees at a time right? Does that normall work or do you need finer adjustment than that.

I have often wondered as I seem to always turn my Hoya HD around 90 degress at a time even though it is a circular one with finer adjustment.

jeffmurray wrote in post #12320877
Thanks argyle but the 4x4 can only be turned 90 degrees at a time right? Does that normall work or do you need finer adjustment than that.

I have often wondered as I seem to always turn my Hoya HD around 90 degress at a time even though it is a circular one with finer adjustment.

The only time you're limited to the 90-degree setting is when you have a GND in the mix. If no GND at the time, you can rotate the holder to any position that you want. But TBH, I don't find the 90-degree rotation to be very limiting at all...I'm not a fan of the heavy, over-polarized look anyway. The Lee 4x4 CPL is a bit on the subtle side and not as garish as some others.

Ok great advice thanks for the information.

jeffmurray wrote in post #12320877
Thanks argyle but the 4x4 can only be turned 90 degrees at a time right? Does that normall work or do you need finer adjustment than that.

I have often wondered as I seem to always turn my Hoya HD around 90 degress at a time even though it is a circular one with finer adjustment.

argyle wrote in post #12321079
The only time you're limited to the 90-degree setting is when you have a GND in the mix. If no GND at the time, you can rotate the holder to any position that you want. But TBH, I don't find the 90-degree rotation to be very limiting at all...I'm not a fan of the heavy, over-polarized look anyway. The Lee 4x4 CPL is a bit on the subtle side and not as garish as some others.

Lee do a Professional kit upgrade, which allows a GND filter to be used with the 4x4 polariser. It adds a second filter holder via a tandem adapter onto the first one, allowing you to turn the polariser filter.

othomas wrote in post #12322173
Lee do a Professional kit upgrade, which allows a GND filter to be used with the 4x4 polariser. It adds a second filter holder via a tandem adapter onto the first one, allowing you to turn the polariser filter.

True, but then you'd be dealing with severe vignetting with the second holder involved. If one is worried about the position of the polarizer, an option is to to position the holder/polarizer where you need it, then hand hold the GND in front. I wouldn't bother with the tandem adapter/holder for the reason stated.

argyle wrote in post #12322759
True, but then you'd be dealing with severe vignetting with the second holder involved. If one is worried about the position of the polarizer, an option is to to position the holder/polarizer where you need it, then hand hold the GND in front. I wouldn't bother with the tandem adapter/holder for the reason stated.

True, I didn't say it was perfect

jeffmurray wrote in post #12315799
has anyone used the Lee Circ Polarizer adapter ring on the Cokin Z Pro filter holder?

I am wondering if the screw holes line up - or it I'll have to change my holder as I've read so many bad reviews of the Cokin 105mm Circ Polarizer.

I think the Cokin Z-Pro gets a bad rap. It's actually a very strong holder and more substantial than the LEE holder. To make the LEE 105mm ring work though, you will have to do some drilling and counter sink the ring holes. Not really a big deal.

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HrcRacing wrote in post #12370390
I think the Cokin Z-Pro gets a bad rap. It's actually a very strong holder and more substantial than the LEE holder. To make the LEE 105mm ring work though, you will have to do some drilling and counter sink the ring holes. Not really a big deal.

Here it's set up with two filter slots (plus the one to hold the 77mm adapter ring in) and there's no vignetting at 10mm with my Sigma 10-20mm.

However, my CPL isn't in yet so I'll have to test it then. Worse case, I may have to drop to one filter slot. Again, not a big deal.

Hate to beat a dead horse, but the fact that the Z-Pro design is limiting brings on the bad rap I've actually used a Z-Pro prior to switching over fully to the Lee kit, so I have first-hand experience with the issues. The fact that it needs workarounds to avoid vignetting is bad enough, but with one slot used to hold the adapter ring, and more than likely having to remove another slot to minimize vignetting due to the additional 105mm polarizer, you've essentially been reduced to a single-slot holder, for all practical purposes. If that works for you, fine and all the better, but personally I prefer the simplicity of Lee in using a single holder without any workarounds, while having access to all three slots and not having to worry about vignetting.

argyle wrote in post #12370490
Hate to beat a dead horse, but the fact that the Z-Pro design is limiting brings on the bad rap I've actually used a Z-Pro prior to switching over fully to the Lee kit, so I have first-hand experience with the issues. The fact that it needs workarounds to avoid vignetting is bad enough, but with one slot used to hold the adapter ring, and more than likely having to remove another slot to minimize vignetting due to the additional 105mm polarizer, you've essentially been reduced to a single-slot holder, for all practical purposes. If that works for you, fine and all the better, but personally I prefer the simplicity of Lee in using a single holder without any workarounds, while having access to all three slots and not having to worry about vignetting.

I don't mind a little modification to the holder. I too have owned both and actually prefer the Cokin. Again, it's a sturdier holder with much sturdier slots for the filters. I'm not much of a double stacker with the filters, due to possible color casts, so If I do have to go down to one filter slot, not a big deal. We'll see.

I can easily see why you would like the LEE holder. It's very good.

I use all Lee Filters for my work. I have tried other filters including the BH screw in ones and just prefer the drop in slot/holder type system better. The BH are still great quality but find the Lee style less fiddly. With regards to the filter set up and vignetting experienced adding the polariser it should not really be an issue too much as the polarising effect used at wide angles is very obvious especially with skies so you really shouldn't be going that wide in the first place when using the polarizer.

I still find I have minor vignetting starting at around 20mm when I use a Big stopper + ND grad + CPL but I often add a subtle vignette in PP anyway so it doesn't bother me a great deal if it suits the composition. If I don't want the vignette I just move back, (where possible)recompose to add some fat to the image and crop out the vignette later. It's not ideal as you lose a bit of resolution but in the big picture (excuse the pun) the loss is negligible.