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mini review of Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 (Macro II version)

 
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Oct 04, 2009 17:57 |  #1

UPDATE: 10/10/09

I know there is a lot of interest in this lens from people out there wondering if they should splurge for the Canon or get the Sigma. The Canon IS version is obviously the best choice because it has both the f/2.8 aperture and IS, but the reality is that not everyone can afford one right away. For those looking for an f/2.8 70-200 zoom, I think that the Sigma is a great option. Here are my initial thoughts after using it for a few days. I will continue to update as I use the lens more.

Build
I really like the build quality of this lens. It feels very solid in your hands and the ergonomics are really good overall (in my opinion). Both the manual focus and zoom adjustments are dampened very well. One of my favorite things to do with the lens is leave the tripod collar on when shooting hand held. If I palm the tripod collar, my ring finger falls directly on the zoom and I am able to zoom using one finger. Very smooth, easy and convenient. I have used the Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 IS and have found the Sigma to be very similar in this regard. I prefer the finish of the Canon's to Sigma's, but it's a minor nitpick. The Sigma finish can get dirty and scratched up easier. The lens hood can also be a bit of a hassle to get on, but it's not really a big deal. I will also say that Sigma has the best tripod ring that I have tried. I love how it has marks for both portrait and landscape for proper alignment as well as the hinge which allows you to remove the tripod ring with the camera still mounted to the lens. With some practice, I could probably take the lens off of a tripod and pan for a a bird in flight in a matter of seconds. Very cool I think!

Focus
I love the autofocus on this lens! Coming from lenses like the Canon 50mm f/1.8 and Tamron 17-50, having HSM focusing is a handy change. I can do without it on shorter lenses, but feel that it adds a lot more versatility to a telephoto, allowing me to capture action shots of wildlife as well as take sports shots.

Focus acquisition is nearly instantaneous in all lighting that I have used it in. (I have shot some early morning shots, but nothing too extensive to test this out). It does struggle a bit focusing on things in difficult situations like branches, through weeds etc., but this has happened with every lens. After a few tries, I can usually lock on. It might be the best lens that I have used in these situations. (I haven't tried the Canon in this situation).

Focus tracking is also very smooth. It maintains focus without any of the jittery nonsense that comes from non USM/HSM lenses. It tracks moving objects well and I haven't had any problems with going in and out of focus. I think that it is VERY close to the Canon in focus tracking, if not just as good. I can't really tell the difference, but I have limited use with the Canon so it could be slightly better. The Sigma does a great job regardless.

Here are some quick examples I took the other day:

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Sharpness at f/2.8 and 200mm.
This is probably the most thoroughly discussed issue with this lens versus the Canon. Frequent problems with focus calibration have not helped out with this issue at all. I think that a lot of the sharpness issues that people have relate to front or back focusing. Having said that, there is softness and a lack of contrast wide open and at 200mm. This is a slight difference between other focal lengths and is nothing that can't be fixed in post processing though in my opinion. Comparing to my Tamron 17-50, the Tamron is noticeably sharpen wide open at all focal lengths.(Please note that the Tamron is a very sharp lens for a zoom). Everything sharpens up nicely by f/4, where sharpness isn't even an issue. I have found the results at f/2.8 and 200mm to be easily usable, which is good enough for me. Here are a few examples, both at f/2.8 and at 200mm. (these also are from photobucket, so will most likely suffer from softness due to poor compression.)
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Macro
The Macro for this lens is decent for a lens of this range. I found it acceptable, but would want to use extension tubes in order to get closer to actual macro range. Here's an example of what you can expect from Macro. This was taken near minimum focus distance at 200mm f/2.8.
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Ratings: Here is how I would rate the lens versus the Canon (in my experience) on a scale of 1-10.

Build
canon Sigma
10 9

Focus
10 10

Sharpness
8 7

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Oct 04, 2009 18:03 |  #2

daniel.. good review... it seems like your putting my old lens to good use... enjoy!


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Oct 04, 2009 18:05 |  #3

canonnoob wrote in post #8759878 (external link)
daniel.. good review... it seems like your putting my old lens to good use... enjoy!

Thanks. I really like this lens a lot. I was learning both the new lens and a new tripod, so I'm hoping to improve as I get more practice with both.


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Oct 04, 2009 18:09 as a reply to  @ KayakPhotos's post |  #4

Thanks for this review. Although I have Canon EF 70-200 F/4L, I have always thought I am missing something from the F/2.8 but because I cannot afford it right now, I have always been thinking of getting the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8. May be I need to get one and try it out now.

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Oct 04, 2009 18:12 |  #5

mufutau55 wrote in post #8759913 (external link)
Thanks for this review. Although I have Canon EF 70-200 F/4L, I have always thought I am missing something from the F/2.8 but because I cannot afford it right now, I have always been thinking of getting the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8. May be I need to get one and try it out now.

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This is the best lens to step up into the f/2.8 realm of the 70-200's if you can't get the Canon IS version I think.


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Oct 04, 2009 18:27 |  #6

40Driggs wrote in post #8759928 (external link)
This is the best lens to step up into the f/2.8 realm of the 70-200's if you can't get the Canon IS version I think.

pretty much... if you can afford the 2.8 IS then get it.. otherwise... the sigma


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Oct 04, 2009 18:34 |  #7

The Canon F/2.8 without IS is just about $200-300 difference with the Sigma, wonder which is better if I cannot afford the Canon with the IS.

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40Driggs wrote in post #8759928 (external link)
This is the best lens to step up into the f/2.8 realm of the 70-200's if you can't get the Canon IS version I think.




  
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Oct 04, 2009 18:45 |  #8

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The Canon F/2.8 without IS is just about $200-300 difference with the Sigma, wonder which is better if I cannot afford the Canon with the IS.

Mufutau

The Canon has a different finish and probably produces images straight out of the camera with more contrast and maybe slightly better colors. Some post adjustment fixes this and would compensate for the differences I think.


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Oct 04, 2009 18:49 |  #9

Thanks for the clarifications.

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40Driggs wrote in post #8760102 (external link)
The Canon has a different finish and probably produces images straight out of the camera with more contrast and maybe slightly better colors. Some post adjustment fixes this and would compensate for the differences I think.




  
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Oct 04, 2009 18:58 |  #10

Sorry man but imo the Sigma can't hold a candle to the Canon 2.8 non IS. I have tried as many as three of the Sigma's macro including the II I ended up returning them. The ones I have tried were useless at 2.8. but years ago I had the non DG Sigma and I loved that lens wish I had never sold it. The person who bought it thanked me many times over. I have tried to like the Sigma because they do have great built quality and they are so much less money than Canon




  
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In all three images you pointed the camera where the sun was. Any lens will perform badly in those conditions. Next time, turn 180 degrees around to see if there is something worth shooting. You were in plain nature, I bet there was.


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Oct 05, 2009 08:32 |  #12

I appreciate your opinion on the issue. My experience with Canon's version has been somewhat limited, so it could be a lot better in general. The times I have used one, I could not see much of a difference.

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Sorry man but imo the Sigma can't hold a candle to the Canon 2.8 non IS. I have tried as many as three of the Sigma's macro including the II I ended up returning them. The ones I have tried were useless at 2.8. but years ago I had the non DG Sigma and I loved that lens wish I had never sold it. The person who bought it thanked me many times over. I have tried to like the Sigma because they do have great built quality and they are so much less money than Canon


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