I may be changing my view on the G11 - I need to get my hands on one.
The processor on G10 and G11 is the same - Digic IV.
I have yet to understand this "area of a pixel" issue. It goes against everything I have always understood pixels to be.
peterbj7 Goldmember 3,123 posts Likes: 1 Joined Oct 2007 Location: A Caribbean island in Belize and occasionally UK More info | Oct 11, 2009 00:06 | #16 I may be changing my view on the G11 - I need to get my hands on one. 5D & 7D (both gripped), 24-105L, 100-400L, 15-85, 50 f1.8, Tamron 28-75, Sigma 12-24, G10, EX-Z55 & U/W housing, A1+10 lenses, tripods, lighting gear, etc. etc.
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jacobsen1 Cream of the Crop 9,629 posts Likes: 32 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Mt View, RI More info | peter, it's all about quality over quantity. The 5D works so well because it's got 12mp in a FF 35mm film area. All the "croppers" are cramming in 8, 10 or 15 in a MUCH smaller area. To put it in reference for you, the 5Dii, if cropped down to the APS-C size would be 8mp. That's down from 21mp! So taking 33% of the MP out of the G series should help massively. It's still an uphill battle with the tiny space available and 10+mp, but it's a start. My Gear List
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amoergosum Goldmember 1,016 posts Likes: 14 Joined Jul 2007 Location: Germany More info | I just found a german review.
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CJinAustin Goldmember 2,361 posts Likes: 2 Joined Jan 2008 More info | Oct 12, 2009 10:44 | #19 Permanent banamoergosum wrote in post #8804942 I just found a german review. Link to pictures: http://www.dkamera.de …11/beispielaufnahmen.html Less impressive than the pics Canon put out... more realistic performance I'm sure. - GEAR -
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ZoranC Senior Member 285 posts Likes: 5 Joined Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles More info | Oct 12, 2009 14:02 | #20 CJinAustin wrote in post #8806306 Less impressive than the pics Canon put out... more realistic performance I'm sure. From my experience with G11 in last 24 hours I believe that person doing G11 samples for Canon pushed that camera as much as he/she could and that his/her skillset in the end played huge role in final perception.
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peterbj7 Goldmember 3,123 posts Likes: 1 Joined Oct 2007 Location: A Caribbean island in Belize and occasionally UK More info | Oct 13, 2009 19:50 | #21 I can't speak for the G11 (yet!) but in reasonably good light the G10 takes remarkably clear and detailed, and very croppable, pictures. I have photos taken with my G10 that are subjectively better than the same subject taken with my 5D. 5D & 7D (both gripped), 24-105L, 100-400L, 15-85, 50 f1.8, Tamron 28-75, Sigma 12-24, G10, EX-Z55 & U/W housing, A1+10 lenses, tripods, lighting gear, etc. etc.
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Oct 13, 2009 20:09 | #22 in daylight, my G10 impresses every time. Pictures are great. In low light I've found it wanting. If the G11 is that much better, sounds real good. I hesitate to go over 400 ISO on my G10.
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Collin85 Cream of the Crop 8,164 posts Joined Jan 2007 Location: Sydney/Beijing More info | Oct 13, 2009 20:36 | #23 ZoranC wrote in post #8807531 From my experience with G11 in last 24 hours I believe that person doing G11 samples for Canon pushed that camera as much as he/she could and that his/her skillset in the end played huge role in final perception. Of course. If they're going to market a camera with officially sanctioned samples, they're clearly not going to put out only 'average shots'! Col | Flickr
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Oct 13, 2009 23:46 | #24 Here is agreat ISO comparison:
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ZoranC Senior Member 285 posts Likes: 5 Joined Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles More info | Oct 14, 2009 03:22 | #25 Collin85 wrote in post #8817059 Of course. If they're going to market a camera with officially sanctioned samples, they're clearly not going to put out only 'average shots'! Of course. That is an upside of it (knowing what camera is capable of in competent hands).
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DigitalMan Member 204 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Conway, SC More info | Some G11 Grab Shots Sony A7RIII, Sony RX10MIV, Assorted Lenses
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jimmyfingers Member 193 posts Joined Jan 2008 Location: South Wales, UK More info | Nice shots there. You can see how P&S cameras struggle with DR in image 18, and the clipped highlights of the water fountain, but overall the image quality looks really nice! Panasonic GF1 + 20mm 1.7
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Jannie Goldmember 4,936 posts Joined Jan 2008 More info | Oct 14, 2009 13:04 | #28 jimmyfingers and DitigalMan, those photos are simply excellent, it shows me that it's an excellent travel camera for starters. Ms.Jannie
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mdwsta4 Senior Member 266 posts Joined Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles More info | just straight out of the camera and cropped to roughly 100%. also included some G10 shots for comparison. first impressions, i preferred the power button on the G10. .2" smaller screen isn't that big of a deal. am totally bummed that my sweet G10 leather case won't fit the G11 because of the 'bump' where the screen rotates. looks like ISO performance is slightly better. still wish canon would get with the times and release a camera with a larger sensor.
G11 80 crop
G11 1600
G11 1600 crop
G11 3200
G11 3200 crop the white line that caused me to return the G10 in the first place http://images53.fotki.com …21/7704216/G10line-vi.jpg G10 1600 G10 1600 crop
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jimmyfingers Member 193 posts Joined Jan 2008 Location: South Wales, UK More info | Oct 15, 2009 02:13 | #30 Jannie wrote in post #8821269 jimmyfingers and DitigalMan, those photos are simply excellent, it shows me that it's an excellent travel camera for starters. I'm interested in the higher ISO's of course as well, the one the OP posted at 1600 ISO blows me away for a point and shoot, my G9 was useless at anything above ISO 200 and I used to think if they would just make it good at 400 ISO I could be happy, of course now I'm greedy because I think that even higher will be possible. jimmyfingers did you shoot these in RAW or JPEG. I've been realizing that although I shoot RAW all the time, I recently shot some with my MKIII, having the CF card recording RAW and the SDHC card recording L JPEG and I'd swear the JPEG's were a tiny bit sharper than my RAW ones processed in LR2.5. What also blew me away was how great the color was on faces in JPEG, I didn't have to adjust skin tones at all on the one test I tried. This idea makes me more interested in going back and getting another point and shoot, the idea of actually shooting in JPEG, for now it's just a thought but the 1600 ISO one from the G11 that jimmyfingers shot and the whole bunch of photos from DigitalMan for me is very exciting. Jannie, many thanks for the kind words aout my images - but I haven't posted any lol. I think you have our names mixed up. Panasonic GF1 + 20mm 1.7
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