Developing a tilt/shift system for 35mm digital camera based on 4x5 large format view

Is there a 4x5 large format view accessory to use with medium format instead of 35mm digital camera?

Tareq wrote in post #9162890
Is there a 4x5 large format view accessory to use with medium format instead of 35mm digital camera?

Yes. Arca Swiss and/or Phase One make one for use with Arca Swiss view cameras and Px backs.

HankScorpio wrote in post #9164420
Yes. Arca Swiss and/or Phase One make one for use with Arca Swiss view cameras and Px backs.

Nothing for Hasselblad H series?

Arca Swiss make a very expensive adaptor for Hasselblad H mount and the Kapture Group make sliding back adaptors that fit most view cameras to most backs.

HankScorpio wrote in post #9164554
Arca Swiss make a very expensive adaptor for Hasselblad H mount and the Kapture Group make sliding back adaptors that fit most view cameras to most backs.

hmmmmmm, i hear that view cameras are cheaper.....lol

That is what i call a setup, ever think about using it for portraits?

^^ Considering that such setup will be only manual focus lens, plus, I do not see any advantage of such setup over to a conventional on-the-camera lens for portrait photography, I do not think you want to use it this way...
But who knows, may be I am wrong?

Have you ever tried rear standard movements? I am testing "kind of same" system...here is first result:

Anatoliy, where is the results?

Rear movements? The same as a front, to change a perspective.. Never needed it for a product shoots. It would be helpful for architecture, but I do not use this system for such yet..

Rear standard movement alters the relationship of film (or sensor) to the subject. So the change is in the shape of the subject. If a square object is at an angle to the rear standard, its appearance is a parallelogram and not a square; rear standard movement can make the square look square in the image.

Front standard movement simply alters the Plane of Focus and does not change the apparent shape of the object being photographed. So a square object may look like a parallelogram, but its entire face can be brought into focus even without use of a small aperture.

Круто!

I just completed the task of mounting an adapter to an extra lens board, so that my 40D could be mounted onto my Horseman large format monorail camera. I thought I'd share the results in this thread.

Looks like a great project, I may try and rig my Cambo to do the same.

MrGreen wrote in post #8792372
Not to sound arrogant or anything, but this whole gingantic set-up dealio you've put together is just so you can get the same effect as a tilt-shift lens?

Having used both tilt-shift lenses and several kinds of view cameras, a tilt-shift really only gives you a taste of the capabilities of view cameras, especially monorails. The degree of independence and precision of all the tilt, swing, shift, rise, and fall movements on a view camera can never be replicated on a tilt-shift lens.

The biggest problem with this setup is that it's basically impossible to do wide angle work -- you're just not going to find a wide enough lens that has enough coverage for movements. Well, unless you're using the 17mm TS-E as your lens on this setup.

The widest medium format lens that I'm aware of is the 38mm Biogon that's used on the Hasselblad SWC. That's extremely wide for MF, and it will have a big enough image circle to give movements on a small format sensor, but it's just not all that wide.

And small format lenses don't cast a wide enough image circle for movements (if you're at infinity focus -- if you are focusing closely then the lens will be farther away from the camera so the image circle will project larger).

You could stitch to achieve a wider angle, but if your subject is architectural (with a lot of geometry) then you get into parallax problems.

But for standard angle stuff, like moderately distant subjects, you could get a TON of movement.

I've got a Schneider 90mm XL lens with a ridiculously large image circle. The amount of shifting could be huge (when I think about cutting out a small format size part of the edge of a fully shifted 4x5 image with that lens).

DrPablo wrote in post #9451371
Looks like a great project, I may try and rig my Cambo to do the same.

Having used both tilt-shift lenses and several kinds of view cameras, a tilt-shift really only gives you a taste of the capabilities of view cameras, especially monorails. The degree of independence and precision of all the tilt, swing, shift, rise, and fall movements on a view camera can never be replicated on a tilt-shift lens.

The biggest problem with this setup is that it's basically impossible to do wide angle work -- you're just not going to find a wide enough lens that has enough coverage for movements. Well, unless you're using the 17mm TS-E as your lens on this setup.

The widest medium format lens that I'm aware of is the 38mm Biogon that's used on the Hasselblad SWC. That's extremely wide for MF, and it will have a big enough image circle to give movements on a small format sensor, but it's just not all that wide.

And small format lenses don't cast a wide enough image circle for movements (if you're at infinity focus -- if you are focusing closely then the lens will be farther away from the camera so the image circle will project larger).

You could stitch to achieve a wider angle, but if your subject is architectural (with a lot of geometry) then you get into parallax problems.

But for standard angle stuff, like moderately distant subjects, you could get a TON of movement.

I've got a Schneider 90mm XL lens with a ridiculously large image circle. The amount of shifting could be huge (when I think about cutting out a small format size part of the edge of a fully shifted 4x5 image with that lens).

Add the limitation that, even with a lens board which is recessed, the rear elements of the LF lens will protrude and likely even hit the rear lens board even if the standards can be moved close enough together (which mine do). For example, my 75mm large format lens hits the rear lens board even without being mounted on a recessed lens board. So 90mm is the minimum FL, unless I try to find and adapt a suitable medium format lens of shorter FL, which does not have elements to stick out behind the lens board. And even with the terrifically expensive 38mm, that isn't wide angle by any measure on APS-C and is scarcely WA even with FF camera mounted. We're talking product shots and macro work for this kind of a setup.

Yeah. Easier to use a Hasselblad (or whatever MF) "wide" lens. That gives you a bit more space to work with.

A photographer I work for sometimes still uses a Cambo Ultima with his 1Ds2 and Hasselblad lenses.