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Gymnastics awards pictures. Which lens?

 
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Oct 11, 2009 18:40 |  #1

I was just wondering what all of you gym parents are using to shoot awards. I have tried my 50mm f1.8 and my kit lens, but not happy with either. Do you use flash or try to shoot with available light? I Shot this last night and was not very happy. It was a short notice thing and I was not at all prepared. I think it was iso3200 f4.0 1/100sec.


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Oct 11, 2009 18:43 |  #2

i shoot flash when doing trophy and medal presentation...

example- i know it isnt gymnastics but...

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Oct 11, 2009 18:47 |  #3

Thanks Dave. I'm so used to no flash that I didn't even bring one.


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Oct 11, 2009 19:46 as a reply to  @ felixapproach's post |  #4

Felix.
The issue with the above pic seems to be WB.


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Oct 11, 2009 19:59 |  #5

White balance is always the issue in gymnastics photos, you either need to find something white or wing it, unless its your home gym and you have already custom set the white balance.

As for the lens, it depends on where I'm at. 85mm f/1.8 at medium distance, one or two gymnasts, 135mm f/2 if further back; have used the 70-200 f/4 on a monopod. Group shot, 17-50 f/2.8. Typical exposure would be 1/160 at f/2 at ISO 1600; if I need more DOF then f/2.8 at ISO 3200.


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Oct 11, 2009 20:03 |  #6

Dave, can you describe what you used to light the group image?


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Oct 11, 2009 20:05 |  #7

430 ex fired on camera(40d in this instance) with the 16-35 2.8 II at 25mm. F9 power on the flash was ..... 1/8th I think.. It was shot in manual. (the flash that is)


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Oct 11, 2009 20:20 |  #8

Thanks Dave.


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Oct 11, 2009 20:32 |  #9

no problem doug


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Oct 11, 2009 20:47 |  #10

I don't think the original is too bad. The white balance seems to be the biggest issue. I've played with the image a bit and attached the result.

The noise at ISO 3200 caused quite a bit of detail to be lost as well (faces). Given the shutter speed and aperture, I think you could have gone down to 1/60th possibly and ISO 1600 to get a cleaner image. I'd experiment a bit with that.

But yes, flash would probably be better. It may also help you under-expose the background a bit giving you less clutter back there...


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Oct 13, 2009 20:00 |  #11

I use my Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 and I use flash.




  
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Oct 14, 2009 12:04 |  #12

felixapproach wrote in post #8802707 (external link)
Thanks Dave. I'm so used to no flash that I didn't even bring one.

You could've used your onboard flash, yes?


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Oct 14, 2009 12:54 |  #13

ANY lens that is wide enough will work for this... as mentioned this issue is lighting


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Jun 09, 2010 17:51 |  #14

eigga wrote in post #8821206 (external link)
ANY lens that is wide enough will work for this... as mentioned this issue is lighting

Set up a couple umbrellas :lol:

I know what you mean. When it's in a gym I usually go no flash and use either 10-22mm (if I can get real close) or 50mm.

When it's inside a cafeteria (and I see you're from AZ so we may have even talked before--my daughter is at Tumbleweeds in Tucson), I bounce a flash and get a nice effect. I just picked up a 18-55 off of craigslist for $100 and I think that will be perfect for awards.

See you next season!


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Jun 09, 2010 19:01 |  #15

Thanks pretzelhead,
I think we did talk at the Kim Bird meet. I'm off to the State Banquet in about an hour so I will get to try some more award shots. After that we are done until fall for my youngest and next year for my oldest.
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