spcalan Senior Member 621 posts Joined Nov 2006 Location: Clermont, Georgia More info | Oct 12, 2009 09:52 | #1 Well I have bought myself a new 24" Mac.. and I am just blown away by it. Alan Hicks
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basroil Cream of the Crop  8,015 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2006 Location: STL/Clayton, MO| NJ More info | Oct 12, 2009 09:58 | #2 LR2 has great photoshop integration, Aperture has none. LR2 over Aperture any day, but download the trials for both and see what you like. I don't hate macs or OSX, I hate people and statements that portray them as better than anything else. Macs are A solution, not THE solution. Get a good desktop i7 with Windows 7 and come tell me that sucks for photo or video editing.
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davidfig we over look the simplest things  3,275 posts Likes: 85 Joined May 2005 Location: Fremont, California USA More info | Oct 12, 2009 10:03 | #3 Yes download the trials. But be aware that apple does things differently. Watch the tutorials and read the manual. What feature you want may be there, but is more intuitive and less PC like. 5D | 17-40L | Tammy 28-75 2.8 | 28-135 | 50/1.8 | 85/1.8 | Sony A6000 2-Lens Kit | SEL35 1.8 | EF 50 1.8 on NEX as my 75mm 1.8
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Tony-S Cream of the Crop  9,911 posts Likes: 209 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado, USA More info | Oct 12, 2009 10:32 | #4 spcalan wrote in post #8806023  So the real question is.. do I buy Aperture or not? There are two principal apps (other than DPP) for raw editing and DAM on Macs: Aperture and Lightroom. You should download both and see which you prefer. Personally, I prefer Aperture over LR. Pros and Cons on Aperture for Mac? Biggest pro is that it uses the gpu for image processing and integrates with the OS very well. The two problems are external edits by other integrated software (e.g., Photoshop, Nik) are returned as bitmapped images to Aperture and not as raw edit files and (2) Apple can be slow to get new camera raw support. Can it edit Raw files like DPP? Better. Easy controls? Well, I guess that's up to the individual. I think Aperture's a breeze to use, but I've been using it for about 3 years now. "Raw" is not an acronym, abbreviation, nor a proper noun; thus, it should not be in capital letters.
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basroil Cream of the Crop 8,015 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2006 Location: STL/Clayton, MO| NJ More info | Oct 12, 2009 10:33 | #5 davidfig wrote in post #8806076 Yes download the trials. But be aware that apple does things differently. Watch the tutorials and read the manual. What feature you want may be there, but is more intuitive and less PC like. Usually "intuitive" and "read the manual" don't jive well together, in fact, they are usually mutually exclusive. I guess they really do do things differently I don't hate macs or OSX, I hate people and statements that portray them as better than anything else. Macs are A solution, not THE solution. Get a good desktop i7 with Windows 7 and come tell me that sucks for photo or video editing.
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Oct 12, 2009 12:12 | #6 Ok.. here goes again. Alan Hicks
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Tony-S Cream of the Crop 9,911 posts Likes: 209 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado, USA More info | Oct 12, 2009 12:46 | #7 Many people use Aperture or Lightroom with Photoshop. They are two different types of apps that complement one another, but have some overlap in features. However, since buying Aperture, I rarely use Photoshop. Only when I need layers or some of the creative filters of Photoshop do I use it, which is pretty rare. You should download both Aperture and Lightroom demos and try them out. Each has things about them that you will like or dislike, but it really comes down to personal preference. For me, it's Aperture + Nik Suite (and on occasion Photoshop or Pixelmator). "Raw" is not an acronym, abbreviation, nor a proper noun; thus, it should not be in capital letters.
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S-Man Goldmember 2,008 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2007 More info | Oct 12, 2009 13:03 | #8 Oftentimes you can trade in your PC-version for a Mac version. Contact Adobe.
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sf1 Goldmember  2,021 posts Joined Mar 2007 Location: Calgary, Canada More info | Oct 12, 2009 13:08 | #9 Agree with most....download the trial version of Aperture and LR and test for yourself. It will all come down to workflow, one will fit you better. Canon 5DII, Canon 1D Mark II N
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davidcrebelxt Goldmember  3,016 posts Joined Dec 2006 Location: Missouri, USA More info | Oct 12, 2009 13:08 | #10 S-Man wrote in post #8807154 Oftentimes you can trade in your PC-version for a Mac version. Contact Adobe. See this thread for a recent experience with cross-grading pricing: David C.
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S-Man Goldmember 2,008 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2007 More info | Oct 12, 2009 13:11 | #11 ^ That's whack. I remember reading somewhere you could do a straight trade. I thought "That sure is awesome of Adobe". But I think it had to be the same version (latest).
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basroil Cream of the Crop 8,015 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2006 Location: STL/Clayton, MO| NJ More info | Oct 12, 2009 13:14 | #12 davidcrebelxt wrote in post #8807183 See this thread for a recent experience with cross-grading pricing: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=765573 All I can say is, ouch! With LR2, there's no worry about that, cd keys work for both Windows and OSX versions. I don't hate macs or OSX, I hate people and statements that portray them as better than anything else. Macs are A solution, not THE solution. Get a good desktop i7 with Windows 7 and come tell me that sucks for photo or video editing.
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kini Senior Member 386 posts Joined Jan 2008 More info | Oct 12, 2009 14:06 | #13 spcalan wrote in post #8806023 Well I have bought myself a new 24" Mac.. and I am just blown away by it. So the real question is.. do I buy Aperture or not? I have used DPP and CS2 for so long on PC, I just want to do something ( better ) or just different. Pros and Cons on Aperture for Mac? Can it edit Raw files like DPP? Easy controls? Yep, download the trial versions. I have the same computer as you. Aperture ended up being useless. Constant lock ups, black images, red images, file not supported errors (with jpegs no less), slooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww. It worked OK for about a week until I started editing many images. Vault never worked properly, preview and thumbnail generation took fooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvvvvverrrrr.
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Oct 12, 2009 16:11 | #14 spcalan wrote in post #8806023 Well I have bought myself a new 24" Mac.. and I am just blown away by it. So the real question is.. do I buy Aperture or not? I have used DPP and CS2 for so long on PC, I just want to do something ( better ) or just different. Pros and Cons on Aperture for Mac? Can it edit Raw files like DPP? Easy controls? Snap -I've also just moved from a 15" PC Laptop to iMac 24 - what an awesome screen Martin
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Merkin Senior Member  319 posts Joined Dec 2008 Location: 417 More info | Oct 12, 2009 16:13 | #15 Get LR2 it's fantastic. - 50D - 50mm 1.4 -Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 - 580 EX II
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