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How well does your ETTL (II) work for you?

 
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May 30, 2005 22:12 |  #1

I've seen a lot of threads here and in other forums where someone will complain that their camera or their flash isn't working right because their pictures are always underexposing or overexposing. A lot of people have even resigned themselves to permanently setting FEC to a specific amount of f-stops, just so they can get a correctly exposed image. After reading so many such threads I sometimes can't help but wonder if ETTL or ETTL-II really is that unrealiable or is it more a case of "user error".

I came up with a test, described below, that some of you might find useful to see if ETTL on your camera is spot on or off by a certain amount. I was really pleased with the result that I got with my 1DmkII. ETTL-II was spot on (to within a tenth of a stop).

Attached are two images from my test. The first one was taken with the flash in Manual mode and the second one is a composite of two test shots in ETTL-II mode.

For those interested in performing a similar test of their own, here's how I did it. Note that this test will only work with flashes that can be set to manual mode like the 550EX and the 580EX. Also, this test should be done in a room where the ambient lighting is low enough so that the flash is the primary source of lighting for the test shots.

1. You will need a background that is as close to neutral gray as you can get. The farther the backgroud deviates from neutral gray, the more the discrepancy will be between the manual flash exposure and the ETTL flash exposure.

2. You will also need a target subject that is neutral in tone. I used a Black/Gray/White card since the average of the three colors should be neutral in tone.

3. Set up the background and the target subject exactly 10 feet away from the flash. Use a tape measure to accurately measure the distance. Position the target so that the glare from the flash is not reflected off the surface of the subject back to the camera. (NOTE: Instead of 10 feet, you may end up using a different distance, as determined by Step 6 below).

4. Set the camera and the mounted flash on a tripod. Remember to keep the flash exactly 10 feet away from the subject.

5. Turn on the camera and set it to manual mode, shutter at 1/250 or whatever your highest sync speed is.

6. Turn on the flash and set it, also, to manual mode. Note the distance scale indicator on the flash and adjust the camera aperture so that the distance marker is on the 10 feet position. If you flash does not have a 10 ft. marker or is in meters, then select a distance marker that is close to 10 ft. You will need to reposition the target so that the distance between it and the flash matches the distance marker you have selected on the flash.

7. Once you've determined the aperture appropriate for the flash-to-subject distance, take a shot of the target. The shot will be close to being perfectly exposed if you did a good job of accurately measuring off the distance to the subject. This shot will be your control image.

8. Set the flash to ETTL mode and take another shot. Make sure that FEC is 0 on the camera and on the flash. If ETTL on you camera was calibarted correctly at the factory, the exposure of this image should closely match your control image.

9. Use EVU (or any other program that shows the histogram on a segmented graph) to compare the two images.

How'd your camera do? :)
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May 30, 2005 22:38 |  #2

Interesting test Leo, though I don't know how many people will have a neutral background, which it seems this test is dependant on. It'd be interesting to put a small compact mirror, like women use for makeup, in the test, as ETTL-II is meant to ignore overly bright parts of the image as it assumes they're just extraneous reflective elemtents not meant for the picture.


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May 30, 2005 22:39 |  #3

I forget to mention that in Step 6, after setting the flash to manual mode, set the power to 1/2 or 1/4.

Also, in Step 8, try several different apertures in ETTL mode.


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May 30, 2005 22:44 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #4

tim wrote:
Interesting test Leo, though I don't know how many people will have a neutral background, which it seems this test is dependant on. It'd be interesting to put a small compact mirror, like women use for makeup, in the test, as ETTL-II is meant to ignore overly bright parts of the image as it assumes they're just extraneous reflective elemtents not meant for the picture.

Unfortunately, without a neutral background and subject, one really can't test the calibartion of the ETTL. As for the compact mirror test, that would be the next step (after ensuring that ETTL-II is OK) to see if ETTL-II really works as advertised. :)


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May 31, 2005 06:20 as a reply to  @ PacAce's post |  #5

I also had some concerns about the 1DMII and 550EX when I first got it. I did a test here:
http://www.pbase.com …oto/1d_mark_ii_​flash_test (external link)
The 1DM2 and 550EX did a good job in bothe evaluative and averaging flash modes.


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May 31, 2005 21:17 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #6

tim wrote:
Interesting test Leo, though I don't know how many people will have a neutral background, which it seems this test is dependant on. It'd be interesting to put a small compact mirror, like women use for makeup, in the test, as ETTL-II is meant to ignore overly bright parts of the image as it assumes they're just extraneous reflective elemtents not meant for the picture.

Just for you, Tim! :D I conducted my own test to see if ETTL-II will really perform as advertized when there is a very bright specular light source in the frame. The specular light source, in my test, was caused by a reflection of the flash off of a mirror. I've attached two images below of my results.

BTW, the test was shot with a 1DmkII and a 580EX.

The first image is the control image and has no specular light sources. It is a composite of two shots, the top one was in ETTL-II mode (C.Fn-14=0) and the bottom one shot in Average flash metering mode (C.Fn-14=1). As you can see, the two images are very similar.

The second image shows the same scene but with a mirror in the scene positioned to reflect the light from the flash back to the camera. Again, the top image was shot in ETTL-II mode. The bottom image was shot in Average mode. As you can very well see, the shot taken using ETTL-II came out very well considering the alternative which would be to shoot in Average mode.

And just for comparison from a different point of view, I'm going to attach another set of flash pictures but this time the flash used was the Sunpak 333 auto-thyristor set to AUTO mode. It also suffers from specular light sources messing up the flash exposure just like when shooting in Average mode with an EX flash. But that's not a surprise because Average flash mode is basically the same mode that auto-thyristor flashes use, too.
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May 31, 2005 21:20 |  #7

For those curious, the colors of the images from the 580EX above are much more true to life than the colors of the images from the Sunpak.


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May 31, 2005 21:37 |  #8

Interesting, thanks Leo :)


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