DPP vs Aperture vs Lightroom vs PS

Mark-B wrote in post #8823097
Here's something I posted last month:Aperture vs Lightroom - an initial review

Great review you made over there, Mark.

René Damkot wrote in post #8845444
IMO, DAM is damn important
Localised edits: When counting vignette, just about all of my images have some localised editing.

DAM may be important to you but it is not an integral part of taking an out-of-camera file to finished photograph.

Are you talking about adding a vignette effect to your shots, or correcting for it? DPP has a tool to correct "periphreal illiumination" of Canon glass.

patwill wrote in post #8846468
DAM may be important to you but it is not an integral part of taking an out-of-camera file to finished photograph.

Are you talking about adding a vignette effect to your shots, or correcting for it? DPP has a tool to correct "periphreal illiumination" of Canon glass.

1) True
2) Adding of course

Tony-S wrote in post #8822048
No selective editing in Aperture, but LR has some of those features.

Beg to differ, but you certainly can do selective sharpening in Aperture.

say_cheese wrote in post #8854423
Beg to differ, but you certainly can do selective sharpening in Aperture.

How so?

say_cheese wrote in post #8854423
Beg to differ, but you certainly can do selective sharpening in Aperture.

Perhaps there is a plug-in for this, but you can not selectively sharpen an image in Aperture with any built in tools.

Your choices are:

Sharpen > Intensity & Radius
Edge Sharpen > Intensity, Edges, & Falloff

Both of these settings are applied to the entire image.

Mark-B wrote in post #8857901
Perhaps there is a plug-in for this, but you can not selectively sharpen an image in Aperture with any built in tools.

I'm beginning to suspect that the majority of Aperture's fans don't sctually use it!

hollis_f wrote in post #8843430
I thought that Aperture had nothing like Lightroom's gradient tool and adjustment brush.

What is it that Aperture can do that LR can't?

- Use an actual brush with size, softness, transparency settings to paint clone & heal corrections
- Correct tint (similar to split toning) on grays as well as shadows & highlights
- Sort by any file or Exif data (including aperture or focal length)
- Magnify selected part of image with adjustable size loupe
- Adjust R, G, B, RGB, & Luminance levels
- Auto stack during import
- Edit in true full screen mode with floating panels
- Edit in thumbnail mode
- Backup images at any time after import
- On screen proofing for your ICC profiles
- Perform functions of any "module" (projects, metadata, adjustments) while in any other "module".

I think that is about it, but I am certainly not an expert in either program. There are other things such as the light table and assembling books, but I don't count those as actual editing features.

On an interesting note, the Photomatix plug-in is far superior in Aperture because everything is handled within the Aperture interface. In Lightroom, the TIF files are created, exported to a separate folder, then the external Photomatix program is launched.

hollis_f wrote in post #8858467
I'm beginning to suspect that the majority of Aperture's fans don't sctually use it!

The fact it is a plug-in is neither here nor there, it comes with the software now, I just downloaded trial last week and it is under Dodge and Burn tool.

And, yes, it applies to a tiff so it is different. In my week of testing, LR seems to do more in a more orthodox way, but that doesn't matter. We should use what makes us more productive.

Can you disable the DAM parts of Lightroom and just use it to convert RAWs and make global adjustments? And if so, would LR do that faster than DPP? The 18 mp files from the 7D slow down my DPP workflow an awful lot.

patwill wrote in post #8931090
Can you disable the DAM parts of Lightroom and just use it to convert RAWs and make global adjustments? And if so, would LR do that faster than DPP? The 18 mp files from the 7D slow down my DPP workflow an awful lot.

Hmm, I don't think there's a way of "disabling DAM" in LR, but you can do things to speed things up for batches of files, such as use small previews in your Catalog Settings, and you also minimize elements in your Library module (or hide it altogether).

How quickly LR runs compared to DPP will probably depend on your hardware as much as anything -- LR makes use of multiple cores and plenty of Ram.

Also, optimize you catalog occasionally (Edit/Preferences/Cata​log Preferences), especially as your catalog gets larger.

This conversation is kind of like Nikon vs. Canon vs. Pentax

patwill wrote in post #8931090
Can you disable the DAM parts of Lightroom and just use it to convert RAWs and make global adjustments? And if so, would LR do that faster than DPP? The 18 mp files from the 7D slow down my DPP workflow an awful lot.

Lightroom without DAM is Bridge.