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Jan 06, 2010 23:21 |  #16

Manual mode seems a distraction too many personally, Tv and Av were invented for a reason You will have plenty to think about with your framing, panning, shutter speed etc.

"Etc" includes your exposure compensation, metering mode...


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Jan 07, 2010 00:57 |  #17

I usually shoot in Tv for aerial shots and Av for static displays.

Works for me.


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Jan 07, 2010 01:00 |  #18

Like Frank said, trying to chase the exposure by "guestimating" with EC would make me nuts...


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Jan 07, 2010 03:01 |  #19

PhotosGuy wrote in post #9341366 (external link)
"Etc" includes your exposure compensation, metering mode...

The best metering mode I have found is evaluative. If you use spot metering you risk getting a wonky exposure if the canopy of the aircraft (or similar reflective part) catches a glint from the sun. Sure, sometimes you end up with a bit of work to do in photoshop afterwards but hey, you frequently played with exposure and so on in the darkroom :)

EC I tend to use at one of about 2 values for flying stuff, possibly a third for start ups.


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Jan 07, 2010 07:45 |  #20

EC I tend to use at one of about 2 values for flying stuff, possibly a third for start ups.

Two values of EC plus a third... yup! It sounds easier than just one setting on "M" to me!
(Now, where's that "sarcasm" smily I need?) ;)

If it works for you, then stick with it. But, "Sure, sometimes you end up with a bit of work to do in photoshop afterwards" makes me wonder why you don't rethink your use of what's really just another "Auto" setting.


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Jan 07, 2010 08:50 |  #21

PhotosGuy wrote in post #9342965 (external link)
Two values of EC plus a third... yup! It sounds easier than just one setting on "M" to me!
(Now, where's that "sarcasm" smily I need?) ;)

If it works for you, then stick with it. But, "Sure, sometimes you end up with a bit of work to do in photoshop afterwards" makes me wonder why you don't rethink your use of what's really just another "Auto" setting.

The 3rd I use very rarely (only if I am expecting an over primed engine throwing some flames back).

The other 2 are set depending on the general conditions and often aren't changed in a day at all.

There is always some work to do in photoshop, manual or not, especially if you shoot in RAW as some sharpening will need to be applied at the very least. You might want to tweak contrast etc.

Manual is more constant fiddling, the settings I choose I tend to fiddle with infrequently. In M as you pan across the sky you will be fighting with the exposure quite heavily some days.

Your sig says "Manual Everything", do you use manual focus while panning jets and prop aircraft travelling at a couple of hundred mph as well? :) Oh, not forgetting changing the shutter or aperture to keep up with the exposure at the same time... hehe


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Jan 07, 2010 23:06 |  #22

Manual is more constant fiddling, the settings I choose I tend to fiddle with infrequently. In M as you pan across the sky you will be fighting with the exposure quite heavily some days.

The answer to that is in the thread I posted: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=89123

Your sig says "Manual Everything", do you use manual focus while panning jets and prop aircraft travelling at a couple of hundred mph as well?

With film, we all did that? ;)


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Jan 08, 2010 06:29 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #23

:) The results on film often showed :) Although tv and av existed in film SLRs too you know :)

My film days were mostly spent in the studio so I never had the ... 'joy' :)


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Jan 08, 2010 08:15 |  #24

Although tv and av existed in film SLRs too you know

Google "Nikon-F". :D


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Jan 08, 2010 09:08 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #25

Lol, now, I am just not that old :)


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Jul 22, 2010 17:42 |  #26

I dont know why i didnt find this before i did my first try. I just posted my first pictures of an air show here:https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=905324.
I am not disappointed, because at least i gave it a try, but this happened.
I started shooting in Tv mode, then i tried manual, but i was so hands full in thinking, that i forgot to change f/xx, and well, you see the result.
It was not what i wanted, but i think the only way to learn is to LOOK a lot of good photos ( as the ones you can see in POTN) and SHOOT a lot of pictures.
So thanks for your help, and please go on posting your experience, so newbies like myself can learn.


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Jul 22, 2010 22:03 |  #27

Trying to jump into M at a show isn't something that I'd recommend, which is why I suggest that you guys practice with something less intensive first. Keep at it & you'll be ready for next years show. ;)


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Jul 29, 2010 20:32 |  #28

I will keep doing it, i live under the traffic pattern of an airport, so will keep shooting and keep asking. Thanks


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