Another......Team Pics Help

After rereading my post, I don't think I made myself clear. The string is for lining up the team, you don't place your tripod on it. You should give yourself enough room so that you are shooting as close to 50mm as possible.

RSB wrote in post #8836600
After rereading my post, I don't think I made myself clear. The string is for lining up the team, you don't place your tripod on it. You should give yourself enough room so that you are shooting as close to 50mm as possible.

nice nice work! Thank you for your clarification on the string.....but I knew what you meant.
I will have 21 total in one group, 12 in the next 3 groups. Maybe I did not look hard enough for rental places......but we don't even have a decent camera shop around here. All Best Buy stuff.....that's why i buy online.
How about 1 more flash and a stand? so 2 flashes on stands total in semi late afternoon.
and thanks for your help as well!

It depends totally on how much sunlight, but still, a pair of 580's on stands probably won't be adequate, certainly not enough if you are going to backlight the group, which I find preferable. I normally use a pair of Norman 400b's for my groups, at full power (400ws each). I'm normally working in full sunlight, so f11@1/250th, and I want the strobes to be putting out a full f11 if I am backlit, or about f9 if I am front or side lit. Calumet has a great rental dept, and will ship drectly to you. I don't know what they offer in the way of battery powered strobes, but the Normans, or a Lumedyne would work great. You can actually get a single Lumedyne that with modules will pack up to 2400ws, although a single Lumedyne with 800ws would more than suffice.

For 21 - three rows, 6 in the first row sitting, up tall straight back and their hands crossed in their laps, 7 in the second row on 2 knees with their hands behind their backs, 8 in the back row standing with their hands behind their backs. Start with the smallest player in line, and put him just to one side of your center nail, then the next smallest to the other side, and follow with the rest, left, right, left right, so you end up with the shortest player in the middle, and the taller players in that row to the outside. Then do your second row the same way, shortest in the middle and work your way out. Second row should be in the gaps between the players in the first row. Same thing for the players in the back row. You want your tallest players in each row on the outside. If you put your tallest players in the middle, they are closer to the camera, and will in fact appear even taller than if they are on the outside of the row, and farther from the camera.

For 12 Players, you have 2 choices really, either do them 3 Rows, 3 front, 4 middle, 5 back, or do single line of all 12 standing, with 6 on each side slightly turned in.