DPP Summit

From this moment on..
This shall be the DPP Summit of ideas, tricks, tips, questions, and anything relating DPP.

Let this be THE DPP source for knowledge.

Hmm.
Any hints,tricks, tips, questions?

Use Lightroom

Just kidding.

Quick Culling -- Open DPP and go to the folder you want to view. Go to Tools | Quick Check go to full screen mode. Use the arrows to scroll through images use the numbers to rate the photos, I use 3 for trash and 1 for keepers two maybes.

When you hit the end, press esc and go back to the normal view, go to edit, select check mark 3s and delete.

Process your 1's then output. THen go back to your two's and rate as either 1 or 3. After you process yours first ones, you will know what you want.

Rinse, lather repeat.

I can do Hundreds of photos in minutes this way.

Zazoh wrote in post #8837647
Quick Culling -- Open DPP and go to the folder you want to view. Go to Tools | Quick Check go to full screen mode. Use the arrows to scroll through images .

Cheers. For years ive struggled to use DPP as a RAW viewer for multiple photos, i didnt know you could do it this way. Very handy to know.

That's the same approach as I use. I generally find that all my #2s become #3s when I revisit them. if they weren't good enough to make the first cut then they are rarely worth saving.

Zazoh
Great tip!
Thanks

Quick question regarding DPP and sharpness. I'm brand new to shooting RAW and DPP so I hope I'm missing something easy.

I've been shooting RAW + Jpeg (with a G11) and looking at the two side by side in DPP the RAW capture is sharper. I've read this may be from some of the NR in the Jpeg engine. So without making any adjustments and simply converting the RAW to Jpeg the image appears to lose sharpness. Is this just because of the loss of information or is something else going on?

Mountain Drifter wrote in post #8844281
Quick question regarding DPP and sharpness. I'm brand new to shooting RAW and DPP so I hope I'm missing something easy.

I've been shooting RAW + Jpeg (with a G11) and looking at the two side by side in DPP the RAW capture is sharper. I've read this may be from some of the NR in the Jpeg engine. So without making any adjustments and simply converting the RAW to Jpeg the image appears to lose sharpness. Is this just because of the loss of information or is something else going on?

DPP will show the camera settings for RAW files, so if you have sharpness on 3 in camera, it will be the same in DPP.

What settings are you using for export? Full Quality or something less. And, where are you viewing them back? Print, DPP, other program?

There may be compression going on, but I haven't witnessed, in my experience. Hmmm

Zazoh wrote in post #8837647
Quick Culling -- Open DPP and go to the folder you want to view. Go to Tools | Quick Check go to full screen mode. Use the arrows to scroll through images use the numbers to rate the photos, I use 3 for trash and 1 for keepers two maybes.

When you hit the end, press esc and go back to the normal view, go to edit, select check mark 3s and delete.

Process your 1's then output. THen go back to your two's and rate as either 1 or 3. After you process yours first ones, you will know what you want.

Rinse, lather repeat.

I can do Hundreds of photos in minutes this way.

That's almost the same as the way I use DPP to cull large batches (250-500) of RAW files. However, I have been doing this in the regular maximized window of the Quick Check tool instead of the Full Screen. Are there keyboard equivilants to all the buttons (clear, Image Info, rotate, AF point, etc.) available in FS?

After deleting all the 3s, I will move all the 1s to a subfolder named simply "1s" before I do the individual file edits. I think that DPP works a lot faster when you don't have as many files in the folder you are working in.

Zazoh wrote in post #8844346
DPP will show the camera settings for RAW files, so if you have sharpness on 3 in camera, it will be the same in DPP.

What settings are you using for export? Full Quality or something less. And, where are you viewing them back? Print, DPP, other program?

There may be compression going on, but I haven't witnessed, in my experience. Hmmm

I download the pictures from the camera with Canon utilities and then open DPP. Then I select both the RAW and Jpeg version of the the same photo and open the image edit window. With the two thumbnails on the side I can click back and forth and see the difference in sharpness. At this point if I convert and save the Raw to a Jpeg the new Jpeg compares to the Jpeg that came straight out of the camera. What I'm trying to figure out is if DPP is applying another action to this in the conversion process that I can disable or if that's just what the compression is doing. It doesn't seem right that if I like the RAW image that after I convert to Jpeg that I would need to sharpen it to make it look the same.

I'm comparing all of the views on my monitor, in DPP at the same viewing size.

I believe that DPP uses a different logarithm to the camera. In the past if you wanted to get the same processed JPG as the camera produces its best to do it in the Canon RIT that comes with ZoomBrowser.

Mountain Drifter wrote in post #8844571
I download the pictures from the camera with Canon utilities and then open DPP. Then I select both the RAW and Jpeg version of the the same photo and open the image edit window. With the two thumbnails on the side I can click back and forth and see the difference in sharpness. At this point if I convert and save the Raw to a Jpeg the new Jpeg compares to the Jpeg that came straight out of the camera. What I'm trying to figure out is if DPP is applying another action to this in the conversion process that I can disable or if that's just what the compression is doing. It doesn't seem right that if I like the RAW image that after I convert to Jpeg that I would need to sharpen it to make it look the same.

I'm comparing all of the views on my monitor, in DPP at the same viewing size.

Are you aware that the slider for Luminance noise reduction defaults to a setting of 2? When you convert your RAW file to a second jpg, it will have some noise reduction applied to it, and will therefore lose some detail which may need to be recovered by applying a little sharpening. You can change this to zero, or any other setting, by using the Preferences dialog. It's at the bottom of the Tool palette tab.

dave_bass5 wrote in post #8844675
I believe that DPP uses a different logarithm to the camera. In the past if you wanted to get the same processed JPG as the camera produces its best to do it in the Canon RIT that comes with ZoomBrowser.

I don't want the Jpeg the same as it's processed from the camera. I really like the way it looks opening the RAW file in DPP. Is that where the different logarithm would take place? If so I like it. I want to keep the same level of sharpness as it gets converted from CR2 to Jpeg in DPP, and right now it doesn't. Is that normal?

patwill wrote in post #8844721
Are you aware that the slider for Luminance noise reduction defaults to a setting of 2? When you convert your RAW file to a second jpg, it will have some noise reduction applied to it, and will therefore lose some detail which may need to be recovered by applying a little sharpening. You can change this to zero, or any other setting, by using the Preferences dialog. It's at the bottom of the Tool palette tab.

I've put those sliders to zero and still notice a difference.

I suppose I should ask an even more basic question (since I'm new to RAW), If viewed at the same size (800x600) should a RAW converted to Jpeg look exactly the same? Or do I need to account for some changes?