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Is there anything you DON'T LIKE about the 7D?

 
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Nov 09, 2009 17:25 |  #376

By dangling I assume he means that it is "dangling" on a shoulder strap and the mode dial is getting bumped as he moves around.

The mode dials on all of my cameras have positive clicks but a mere detent is not going to prevent the dial from getting bumped while inserting or removing the camera from a bag. Making the detent positive enough that it won't move under those conditions would make it too hard for some users to move without the use of tools.


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Nov 09, 2009 17:28 as a reply to  @ krb's post |  #377

A locking button in the center of the dial, requiring the user to press the button to turn the dial, would take care of that.
Now when they've made the effort to make a separate lock button for the rear dial, why not?


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Nov 09, 2009 18:32 |  #378

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Nov 09, 2009 23:41 |  #379

I ain't betting on my chances, but is the AF-On button reprogrammable? In particular, to change the ISO? :)


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Nov 10, 2009 02:07 as a reply to  @ Collin85's post |  #380

Yes and no.

It can be set to any of the following:

    Metering and AF start with currently selected AF point.
  • Metering and AF start with registered AF point (Home Point).
  • Exposure lock.
  • AF stop.
  • Flash Exposure Lock (FEL).
  • Disabled.

So it is programmable, but not to change the ISO. On the other hand, there's a dedicated button for that 32 mm away.

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Nov 10, 2009 02:45 |  #381

Ah well, I didn't think so. Thanks.

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On the other hand, there's a dedicated button for that 32 mm away.

Yes, but I've always disliked that button location. I find it somewhat unnatural.

It was worse with the 20/30D/5D (mid, Cdial), improved with the 40/50D/5D II (right, Tdial), but the point is you still have to use your index finger to press it (which involves a bit of lateral wedging - slightly unnatural). Personally, this is one "way of doing things" I actually miss from the Rebel range - using my thumb to activate the ISO control.

Not a big deal, was just curious.


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Nov 10, 2009 02:55 |  #382

zincozinco wrote in post #8983459 (external link)
that you cant lock the main dial button - have the camera dangling for 2 secs and your in bulb :)

I do find that the random-mode-switch happens a lot less with the 7D than it did with my previous models. In fact it only seems to happen when I'm changing lenses. When I put my left index finger on the release button my thumb is on the mode dial - and sometimes that gets moved as I rotate the lens/body.


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Nov 10, 2009 07:07 |  #383

Collin85 wrote in post #8988353 (external link)
Ah well, I didn't think so. Thanks.



Yes, but I've always disliked that button location. I find it somewhat unnatural.

It was worse with the 20/30D/5D (mid, Cdial), improved with the 40/50D/5D II (right, Tdial), but the point is you still have to use your index finger to press it (which involves a bit of lateral wedging - slightly unnatural). Personally, this is one "way of doing things" I actually miss from the Rebel range - using my thumb to activate the ISO control.

Not a big deal, was just curious.

Use your left thumb on the "Q Menu" button instead, followed by your right thumb on the joystick then back wheel and set button. :)


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Nov 10, 2009 07:57 |  #384

Yes, that I don't have one! ;)


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Nov 10, 2009 17:06 as a reply to  @ Sean's post |  #385

The shoulder strap.

So there I was in a place with very few folks (like, almost nobody) around, minding my own business, concentrating on my subjects when this junkie-looking person emerges from nowhere, walks up and mumbles in my ear "The seven dee...", and engages in conversation. For a few seconds I wasn't sure whether to run away or use my "seven dee" for a pre-emptive attack, until I realized he had a Sony DSLR strapped to his hand (maybe pre-empting a pre-emptive attack from a Canonite...), and figured out he had recognised the writings on my shoulder strap...

After a bit of chatting I have to admit he sounded like a "true photographer" and of course he looked the part of a true artist, in stark contrast to me, "Mr IT Support" out on a jolly with my 7D inbetween rainfalls... Unfortunately he was too busy to harrass me for too long (or probably I was too uninteresting to talk to...)

So the 7D shoulder strap could have landed me in deep trouble: I can imagine the local headlines "mad foreign photographer bashes in the skull of established local artist, claims self-defence!" or something like that, and the subsequent threads here and on the Canon and Sony forums on dpreview. Ouch...


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Nov 10, 2009 17:15 |  #386

zincozinco wrote in post #8983459 (external link)
that you cant lock the main dial button - have the camera dangling for 2 secs and your in bulb :)

I was going to say I had no complaints until you mentioned this. While in Africa last week I was switching back and forth between the 7D and 5D MkII a lot and I did notice that I had bumped the dial to the wrong mode on the 7D several times, but not on the 5D MkII. Maybe it sets out a bit more or the knurling is rougher, but it does happen. Not a major gripe, but it is a valid point. BTW, I use hand straps on mine, but no neck straps.


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Nov 10, 2009 21:09 |  #387

I expect the reason many of you are finding that you are bumping the mode dial is that the on/off lends itself to you also moving the mode dial. Maybe it is not necessarily getting bumped somewhere, but rather the on/off sequencing is changing it. This is why this redesigned location of the on/off didn't really excite me. I didn't like it on the Rebel series, and now it is on the 7D.

I am at the point I will just leave it on all the time, and let it sleep. I know many of you do that already, but the redesigned on/off on the 7D will lead me to the other side that never turn off their cameras.


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Nov 11, 2009 01:23 |  #388

this is not rocket science folks. keep your finger off the dial and it will not turn, simple. it's like keeping your finger off the trigger, and the gun will not go bang. keep things out of the trigger guard that might make it pull back and go bang.

simple. it doesn't move by itself.


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Nov 11, 2009 02:33 |  #389

I've found it quite difficult to know when the AF has locked when I'm shooting a bright subject ... the red illuminated focus points are nowhere near as bright as those on my old 40D ...

Only a minor quibble though :)

And the mode dial has yet to rotate accidentally for me ;)


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Nov 11, 2009 08:46 as a reply to  @ Hogster86's post |  #390

I have nothing to complain about yet!

OH! Actually, my only complaint is that my computer is not powerful enough to play the video! And as we all know, that is purely the fault of the 7D.


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