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Feb 04, 2010 16:08 |  #3406

drisley wrote in post #9541758 (external link)
Your results are very good now. I used ACR for years and dreaded changing my workflow. Things move much slower now than when I used Bridge/ACR, but I like the output better. The noise is generally lower/more pleasing, detail seems smoother (ie, fewer sharpening artifacts) and I just love the Canon colours, something that ACR still doesn't get quite right imho (at least with the older cameras, but your examples above look really nice).

So you use ZoomBrowser to convert to TIFF?




  
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Feb 04, 2010 16:14 |  #3407

Yeah, well Raw Image Task actually, which is the Raw converter for Zoombrowser.
I don't even know if ZB/RIT is even suppported by new cameras anymore. I think DPP sort of took over.
DPP with the MkIII and older cams didn't give QUITE the same output as in-camera processing. However, at some point (maybe the 5D MkII?) RIT was dropped in favour of DPP, and it is actually supposed to give superior results over RIT and match in-camera output (with the new cameras).

But your results with ACR are so amazing thus far, I'm not sure how much better DPP could be.


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Feb 04, 2010 16:19 |  #3408

Anyone using a mark IV with Apple's Aperture software? Just curious as to how well it works out.


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Feb 04, 2010 17:35 |  #3409

nicksan wrote in post #9539341 (external link)
... you have a built-in gray card on your head.:lol:


bw!



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Feb 04, 2010 17:37 |  #3410

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bw!

very funny, timmy, very funny. ;):o:rolleyes:




  
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Feb 04, 2010 17:51 as a reply to  @ MDJAK's post |  #3411

Hey, I can make fun of grey hair - its all I got left these days.

OTOH, just wait until the Title Fairy sees this thread!:lol:



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Feb 04, 2010 17:53 |  #3412

Well, I got a friend who went bald in his early 20's. He makes fun of my grey hair and says he'd rather be bald than grey. :-(




  
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Feb 04, 2010 18:15 |  #3413

nicksan wrote in post #9541718 (external link)
Standard, Low, Strong, and Disable.

I have it disabled as I shoot in RAW and use ACR for conversion.

Which leads me back to a question I had earlier.

Is the NR application, in terms of NR strength prioritized as:

Standard = lowest
Low = low
Strong = strongest

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Low = lowest
Standard = low
Strong = strongest


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Feb 04, 2010 18:18 |  #3414

Colin Morey wrote in post #9541851 (external link)
Anyone using a mark IV with Apple's Aperture software? Just curious as to how well it works out.

I am. It sees RAW files and processes everything just as it always has. Not great, but adequate.


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Feb 04, 2010 18:39 |  #3415

MDJAK wrote in post #9542425 (external link)
Well, I got a friend who went bald in his early 20's. He makes fun of my grey hair and says he'd rather be bald than grey. :-(

I would take grey over bald any day.

GBRandy wrote in post #9542570 (external link)
Which leads me back to a question I had earlier.

Is the NR application, in terms of NR strength prioritized as:

To me it sounds like this:

Low = lowest
Standard = low (medium)
Strong = strongest


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Feb 04, 2010 20:10 |  #3416

I just rattled of some shots in RAW to see where it set the NR Slider in DPP. It opened a whole can of worms..... but first the results:

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


It looks like it does go
Low
Standard
Strong
Disable

Funny in that in the disable mode it is still applying NR options.....

More intriguing was when I shot some images as JPG's and the same set as RAW and converted to JPG's.

The results were entirely different.

At ISO 12800 and Strong:
The RAW files were MUCH sharper than the JPG despite my JPG Picture Style Sharpness bumped to 5 out of 7.
The JPG showed slightly less noise.

EDIT: Now I am confused. The sliders on the JPG sharpness are at zero. RAW & RGB. Why is that? If I set Picture Styles doesn't that apply those settings when the file is written to the card?

Things look better with the RGB sharpness moved to 5 for the JPG..... Tad confused and may need a lesson on JPG conversion in camera as I have rarely done it.

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Feb 04, 2010 20:33 |  #3417

ISO with two different approaches.....

left is shot as a JPG and STD NR...the right is RAW and processed in DPP with STD NR

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


IMAGE NOT FOUND
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Feb 04, 2010 20:51 |  #3418

Same JPG on left. The right is RAW conv in DPP at Std NR, RAW Sharp 5; RGB sharp 5....

IMAGE NOT FOUND
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Feb 04, 2010 21:07 |  #3419

Weird! Kinda makes me think about how I've been doing it all these years - unless the intrinsics are just different on this camera.


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Feb 04, 2010 21:29 |  #3420

When I shoot Raw and output from Zoombrowser/RIT, the results are 100% identical to in-camera JPG's.
Obviously things are different with the 1D4/DPP.
Curious, what sort of output from the 1D4 was used in all the online reviews and comparisons?
Beccause GBRandy, that Raw ISO12,800 shot, and the ones shown by Nicksan from Raw, seem MUCH better than what I've seen in most reviews and comparisons.


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