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Oct 25, 2009 09:38 |  #1

Really, it is exactly what I want in a tool. (Actually Bridge with ACR)

Fast, powerful, localized edits. As a Mac user I get the full version with PSE8, but PSE is 1.2Gb of junk I'll never use. Does anyone know if once everything is all up and running I can just leave ACR on with Bridge?

Come on Adobe, just license and sell ACR with Bridge, I'd buy it.


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Oct 25, 2009 09:56 |  #2

They do sell ACR with a Bridge like tool. They call it Lightroom.


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Oct 25, 2009 10:16 |  #3

Zazoh wrote in post #8890430 (external link)
Really, it is exactly what I want in a tool. (Actually Bridge with ACR)

Fast, powerful, localized edits. As a Mac user I get the full version with PSE8, but PSE is 1.2Gb of junk I'll never use. Does anyone know if once everything is all up and running I can just leave ACR on with Bridge?

Come on Adobe, just license and sell ACR with Bridge, I'd buy it.

I haven't tried it. Maybe you should try. But I know you can open a file in ACR via Bridge without opening PS CS4.


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Oct 25, 2009 14:12 |  #4

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I haven't tried it. Maybe you should try. But I know you can open a file in ACR via Bridge without opening PS CS4.

And, even on a Mac you can do it with PSE 8. But you have to have it there.

And, HankScorpio, but it has to be used like a database. Don't like that.


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Oct 25, 2009 14:25 |  #5

Adobe Bridge is a browser; not a database...so it doesn't have "to be used like a database."

Zazoh wrote in post #8891645 (external link)
And, even on a Mac you can do it with PSE 8. But you have to have it there.

And, HankScorpio, but it has to be used like a database. Don't like that.


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Oct 25, 2009 15:04 |  #6

@PixelMagic - i think he's referring to Lightroom, which HankScorpio suggested...




  
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Oct 25, 2009 15:39 as a reply to  @ thaking's post |  #7

Why is 1 Gig a big deal? If it is then you need another HD anyways.


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Oct 25, 2009 15:48 |  #8

battletone wrote in post #8892029 (external link)
Why is 1 Gig a big deal? If it is then you need another HD anyways.

The deal is, Bridge plus ACR is LR without the DB management. Why doesn't Adobe sell alone? That is the question.

It isn't the space it takes up, it is the principal.


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Oct 25, 2009 16:06 |  #9

Zazoh wrote in post #8892071 (external link)
The deal is, Bridge plus ACR is LR without the DB management. Why doesn't Adobe sell alone? That is the question.

It isn't the space it takes up, it is the principal.

Oh, I didn't read all that into the first post.

But then....since you already have all this stuff, and space isn't the issue....is there issue?


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Oct 25, 2009 16:16 |  #10

The thing about Bridge is, it's not a stand alone product. It exists for the reason it's name suggests, it's a bridge between various Adobe products. The whole point of it is to better integrate Illustrator into InDesign, into Photoshop etc. If you set out to design a stand alone product with the features of Bridge and ACR, it becomes Lightroom.


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Oct 26, 2009 07:25 |  #11

Zazoh wrote in post #8892071 (external link)
The deal is, Bridge plus ACR is LR without the DB management. Why doesn't Adobe sell alone? That is the question.

It isn't the space it takes up, it is the principal.

Because they'd only sell one copy of it?


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Oct 26, 2009 20:14 |  #12

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Because they'd only sell one copy of it?

Doubtful, while the predominant thinking is that it has to be one way or you are wrong. Many, look around, and google it, are looking for less programs and less overhead and less of 1000 things they will never use.

To each 'is own.


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Oct 26, 2009 20:34 |  #13

Adobe is apparently quite content with its various software packages, so I doubt you'll see them change the product line any time soon.


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Oct 26, 2009 22:08 |  #14

Zazoh wrote in post #8892071 (external link)
The deal is, Bridge plus ACR is LR without the DB management. Why doesn't Adobe sell alone? That is the question.

It isn't the space it takes up, it is the principal.

Apparently you've never used LR2 then. Try it, it's free for 15 days. You'll see that it's far from a database, and actually has a content management system.

If you want to clean up space, get rid of rosetta, garage band, and printer drivers from your mac, that'll free up much more than the 1.2gb you're complaining about.

And, you can use ACR directly from bridge without opening anything. If you don't like it, uninstall everything and just use the dpp. it'll do exactly what you want for free, and under 500mb including everything else.


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Oct 27, 2009 20:31 |  #15

basroil wrote in post #8901092 (external link)
Apparently you've never used LR2 then. Try it, it's free for 15 days. You'll see that it's far from a database, and actually has a content management system.

If you want to clean up space, get rid of rosetta, garage band, and printer drivers from your mac, that'll free up much more than the 1.2gb you're complaining about.

And, you can use ACR directly from bridge without opening anything. If you don't like it, uninstall everything and just use the dpp. it'll do exactly what you want for free, and under 500mb including everything else.



Dpp doesn't have localized edits. But if it did I wouldn't be looking, love it.
ACR / Bridge package was what I wanted in a program.
LR2 does manage photos thru a database.
I don't care about space, I care about efficiency.


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