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Need advice, shooting under low light without flash.

 
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Oct 29, 2009 23:05 |  #1
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I eat in restaurants and their lights are always low or dim. How do I get crispy clear pictures without using a flash? Everytime I take a photo inside a low light restaurant it gets blurry or out of focus or shakes due to long exposure.


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Oct 29, 2009 23:09 |  #2

...high ISO and a wide aperture?


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Oct 29, 2009 23:13 |  #3

TheBurningCrown wrote in post #8922092 (external link)
...high ISO and a wide aperture?

Yep...a steady hand will help out alot too...


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Oct 29, 2009 23:15 |  #4

mini tripod and long exposure will help




  
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Oct 29, 2009 23:17 |  #5

Use your 50mm 1.8 at like F2 and crank the ISO. Maybe 6400 even. Keep shutter speed above 1/80.


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Oct 30, 2009 08:49 |  #6

photo_wed wrote in post #8922064 (external link)
I eat in restaurants and their lights are always low or dim. How do I get crispy clear pictures without using a flash? Everytime I take a photo inside a low light restaurant it gets blurry or out of focus or shakes due to long exposure.

I too eat in restaurants :lol:

Anyway, if it's blurry due to long exposure, just keep increasing the ISO until you get rid of the shakes ;)

If it's really dim, you may find yourself at f/1.8 and ISO6400 though :)

Bryan Peterson's "Understanding Exposure" is a good book that explains some of the basics. Good luck!




  
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Oct 30, 2009 08:57 |  #7

1/(focal length x crop factor) = minimum speed you need to eliminate the camera shake without IS. For restaurants, lenses like the 17-55 f/2.8IS REALLY shine. Because I can take a shake-free shot at 1/8th of a second @ 55mm with it.

Turn up the ISO till you can expose properly at or above the 1/(focal length x crop factor) shutter speed. The problem you run into when you go into the nose-bleed ISO's is that noise takes over and cuts down your "crispness"


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Oct 30, 2009 09:46 |  #8

buy a sigma 30mm f/1.4 - its a normal length lens on your crop camera. The 50 is a little long. Wider will shake less in your hands. Also f/1.4 lets in more light and the build quality is better. You can go cheap with the 35mm f/2 from canon or expensive with the 35L f/1.4. Shoot at high ISO of course. You should be able to use ISO1600.


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Oct 30, 2009 11:50 |  #9

nureality wrote in post #8923699 (external link)
1/(focal length x crop factor) = minimum speed you need to eliminate the camera shake without IS. For restaurants, lenses like the 17-55 f/2.8IS REALLY shine. Because I can take a shake-free shot at 1/8th of a second @ 55mm with it.

I would assume restaurant shots would include people. People need like 1/60 minimum unless they are sleeping because they move, regardless of how stable the camera is. IS might be good for food shots, though.


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Oct 31, 2009 02:37 |  #10

I think the same as tkbslc.

photo_wed you should understand the correlation between:
shutter speed (and focal length)
diaphragm
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ISO (exposition)




  
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Oct 31, 2009 03:59 |  #11

1. Higher ISO, wider aperture, and/or image stabilization
2. Tell everyone to quit moving




  
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Oct 31, 2009 04:03 |  #12

toxic wrote in post #8928592 (external link)
1. Higher ISO, wider aperture, and/or image stabilization
2. Tell everyone to quit moving

Lol and +1.


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Oct 31, 2009 04:20 |  #13

toxic wrote in post #8928592 (external link)
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2. Tell everyone to quit moving

But LOL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes but it's true when there is few light is impossible take shutter speed low if the subject moving fast and so the iso aren't never sufficient.




  
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Nov 02, 2009 22:18 |  #14
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alessandro2009 wrote in post #8928465 (external link)
I think the same as tkbslc.

photo_wed you should understand the correlation between:
shutter speed (and focal length)
diaphragm
subject
ISO (exposition)

what iso do you guys shoot with? normally i set it as 200-500. i'm just very worried about grainy images with 800+ iso...what ISO do u guys use?


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Nov 02, 2009 22:20 |  #15

photo_wed wrote in post #8944424 (external link)
what iso do you guys shoot with? normally i set it as 200-500. i'm just very worried about grainy images with 800+ iso...what ISO do u guys use?

You can have one of two things: Long exposure (and blurry), grain free images, or shorter exposures with some digital noise. It's basically get the shot or not, so you have to decide how important that shot is to get.


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