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Oct 30, 2009 00:28 |  #1

This was shot as part of a larger project for a catalog during a Police and Military Shooting course put on by Magpul Dynamics. Thoughts and comments are welcome.

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Oct 30, 2009 07:29 |  #2

That's freaking incerdibly sharp! I guess it takes a really nice 1DSIII to get nice sharp incredible detail like this that my XTi won't give me, huh?
Now get me some Magpul accessories for my AR!


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Oct 30, 2009 20:26 |  #3

Nice pic. Did you have lights set up for this?


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Oct 30, 2009 21:58 |  #4

as a piece of photography I don't think this pic works. Just too snapshotish honestly. A sharp one though ;)


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Oct 31, 2009 01:46 |  #5

korrektor wrote in post #8927578 (external link)
as a piece of photography I don't think this pic works. Just too snapshotish honestly. A sharp one though ;)



While I appreciate your opinion, your market is vastly different than mine. Without a pretty girl in the picture, it falls back on a student working stance, cheek to stock weld, and similar things to illustrate why the picture was taken. The form used by the shooter is textbook, the angle of the shot was intentional to show use of a barricade while still leaving room for the company logo in the upper or lower right of the picture. That leaves lighting, which I really have no complaints over as it highlights the weapon.

We'll have to agree to disagree, what I think we will agree on is that since company is ecstatic, its the size of the check that matters.


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Oct 31, 2009 01:53 |  #6

jm_usmc wrote in post #8927207 (external link)
Nice pic. Did you have lights set up for this?



Yes, I brought out the AB1600s with Vagabond II. Below is one shot with natural light in heavy smoke from rapid fire relays. The below link shows the larger view, and in the full resolution image, unburnt powder is seen in the air.


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Oct 31, 2009 11:08 |  #7

Stickman, i will not argue with you about his pose, and the reasons of why this photo is the way it is. I dont shoot guns (there are plenty of ppl who do it here in LA already) and cant tell you anything about the technique. However as a photographer i will say that there are plenty of way to make such photos less boring and more memorable. ( I do thnk that the second shot is stronger). It all depends of course on how far you would like to push you artistic capability. Again, just IMHO.


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Oct 31, 2009 12:15 |  #8

korrektor wrote in post #8929804 (external link)
Stickman, i will not argue with you about his pose, and the reasons of why this photo is the way it is. I dont shoot guns (there are plenty of ppl who do it here in LA already) and cant tell you anything about the technique. However as a photographer i will say that there are plenty of way to make such photos less boring and more memorable. ( I do thnk that the second shot is stronger). It all depends of course on how far you would like to push you artistic capability. Again, just IMHO.

No insult taken on this end. In shooting something like this, there is no interaction or posing the students/ shooters, and no reshoots or "do overs" for a missed shot.

Safety plays a large part, and most photoshoots don't start out with a safety brief that includes a medical evacuation route plan and available medical supplies. With most models you usually don't need to worry about people, lighting or other equipment getting shot, though in LA it may be a little higher than some parts of the country.

IIRC, most of the work I've seen of you is fashion oriented, so I would imagine it would be similar to shooting a fashion show where you've got girls working the boardwalk. The difference is, in this case I'm shooting SWAT and MIL guys who are only interested in putting rounds on target and hard training without interruption, and no thoughts about looking good for the camera.


I'm interested in your comment of "as a photographer i will say that there are plenty of way to make such photos less boring and more memorable". Please say what a few of those plenty of ways are, and I'll let you know if any of them were things I did, or if they would have been feasible with the given parameters.


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Oct 31, 2009 12:18 |  #9

ScottsGT wrote in post #8923318 (external link)
That's freaking incerdibly sharp! I guess it takes a really nice 1DSIII to get nice sharp incredible detail like this that my XTi won't give me, huh?
Now get me some Magpul accessories for my AR!



The sharpness was more a matter of lighting, but I'm also very happy with the 24-105 lens that I use.

Magpul makes good gear, no question about it.


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Oct 31, 2009 12:33 |  #10

korrektor: Live fire shots need to be viewed more as a sporting event than a portrait. You can't be where you want to photograph from due to safety reasons and the photog isn't in control of anything other than his camera.

Stickman: That second one is very good. But now I have another question. How did you get that without violating the 180? Remote camera? I'd love to get stuff like that at the USPSA matches I shoot.


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Oct 31, 2009 13:24 |  #11

If theres no care about the light, composition, the pose, the face and the angle then you have a snap shot with a really expensive piece of gear. Simple as that.
Ways to improve the excitement levels:

- pay attention to all of those elements mentioned.

If you are not able to do this (absence of time, gear, editing, etc etc) then you will get a rather plain picture. Note that Obama and Annie L. Shot critique thread- only you know about the conditions of the shoot, the viewer will never care.


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