legacymobilestudio Senior Member 399 posts Joined Sep 2009 Location: Colorado More info | Oct 30, 2009 12:59 | #1 (resized for website but NO crop- this is 100) I can make any Keys I want clear, either at front or back- BUT how can I set it so that the WHOLE keys are in clear? handheld(bad idea but it was on spur of moment) 1/80(no flash) fstop was 4 70mm focal l. I tried increasing the F/stop to "take in the rest of the keys"- but if I increased the fstop to max, it would take 20 seconds(handholding is out of the question) How would you approach this? Thanks for enlightening me. Canon Xti, 30D + battery grip, T2i GRIPPED, 28mm 2.8, 18-55mm kit, 10-22mm, 28-135mm IS, 24-70mm 2.8 L, 55-250mm IS, 70-200 2.8 L IS, Sigma 150-500mm apo, and two backpacks.
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FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop" 57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Oct 30, 2009 13:01 | #2 This is why people own tripods... Jay
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Mike ugly when I'm sober More info | Oct 30, 2009 13:04 | #3 To be honest, you can only do one or the other with this light, either a wide aperture to handhold or a narrow aperture + tripod to get the whole keyboard in focus. You could max out your iso to get your shutter speed down but I doubt it would come down enough to hand hold still. www.mikegreenphotography.co.uk
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Mark_Cohran Cream of the Crop More info | Oct 30, 2009 13:07 | #4 You have a simple Depth of Field (DOF )problem. In order to get the maximum number of keys in focus, you need to increase your DOF. To increase DOF you need to use a smaller aperture or increase your camera to subject distance, or both. Obviously, your composition requires a short camera to subject distance, so your best option is to use a smaller aperture. As you noted, however, that results in a longer exposure time for the given ISO. So here are your options: Mark
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Oct 30, 2009 13:10 | #5 Very true. Put it on a tripod- Canon Xti, 30D + battery grip, T2i GRIPPED, 28mm 2.8, 18-55mm kit, 10-22mm, 28-135mm IS, 24-70mm 2.8 L, 55-250mm IS, 70-200 2.8 L IS, Sigma 150-500mm apo, and two backpacks.
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Oct 30, 2009 13:11 | #6 Thanks everyone for reinforcing- this is awesome. Canon Xti, 30D + battery grip, T2i GRIPPED, 28mm 2.8, 18-55mm kit, 10-22mm, 28-135mm IS, 24-70mm 2.8 L, 55-250mm IS, 70-200 2.8 L IS, Sigma 150-500mm apo, and two backpacks.
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EdBray Senior Member 646 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2008 Location: Plymouth, UK (the original one!) More info | Oct 30, 2009 13:15 | #7 Whilst the depth of field is an issue, you don't need a tripod or a flashgun to do this or even to raise the ISO to a high level. Canon EOS 5DMkII, Canon EOS 10D, Canon EF17-40L, Canon EF24L TS-E MkII, Canon 24-105L IS, Canon 70-200L f4 IS, Canon EF 1.4x Extender MkII. Hasselblad 503CX, Hasselblad 500CM, Carl Zeiss 40mm, 50mm, 80mm, 150mm, 250mm For my epitaph: Do not let my wife sell any of my kit for what I've told her I paid for it! My Flickr
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Oct 30, 2009 13:17 | #8 EdBray wrote in post #8924977 Whilst the depth of field is an issue, you don't need a tripod or a flashgun to do this or even to raise the ISO to a high level. Rest the camera on the piano (either on the bass keys or on the edge of the piano). Focus just over 1/3 of the way up the keyboard. Set the aperture to the maximum at the very least f16. Set the camera's drive to self timer, (I would use the 10 sec mode to give the camera time to settle after pressing the shutter button). Press the shutter and wait for it to close before touching the camera again! Jobs a good un! I'll have to remember to USE the self timer feature as well as setting it down, etc- I always seem to forget that. Canon Xti, 30D + battery grip, T2i GRIPPED, 28mm 2.8, 18-55mm kit, 10-22mm, 28-135mm IS, 24-70mm 2.8 L, 55-250mm IS, 70-200 2.8 L IS, Sigma 150-500mm apo, and two backpacks.
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gjl711 Wait.. you can't unkill your own kill. 57,738 posts Likes: 4072 Joined Aug 2006 Location: Deep in the heart of Texas More info | Oct 30, 2009 13:21 | #9 There is another way to get much greater DOF but it requires a bit of post processing and quite a few images. Not sure why, but call me JJ.
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scot079 Goldmember 3,839 posts Likes: 1 Joined May 2007 Location: Maryland USA More info | Oct 30, 2009 15:56 | #10 ^^ I was going to mention "focus stacking" as well. If you have a mac then CombineZM won't work for you, try Helicon focus. - Tim
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rdenney Rick "who is not suited for any one title" Denney 2,400 posts Likes: 3 Joined Jun 2003 More info | This is easy for a large-format photographer with a view camera.
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FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop" 57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Oct 30, 2009 17:21 | #12 I Love POTN... Jay
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Oct 30, 2009 19:09 | #13
Canon Xti, 30D + battery grip, T2i GRIPPED, 28mm 2.8, 18-55mm kit, 10-22mm, 28-135mm IS, 24-70mm 2.8 L, 55-250mm IS, 70-200 2.8 L IS, Sigma 150-500mm apo, and two backpacks.
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Mark_Cohran Cream of the Crop More info | Oct 30, 2009 20:31 | #14 FlyingPhotog wrote in post #8926363 I Love POTN... Ask "What Time Is It?" and someone will tell you how to build a watch! ![]() You're absolutely right there. Mark
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FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop" 57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Oct 30, 2009 23:02 | #15 Um Mark, that's a seriously disturbing Avatar there... Jay
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