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Nov 03, 2009 17:16 |  #1

Can 7D RAW, sRAW, and mRAW files be converted in DPP to either TIFF or DNG and then processed in CS3? Any other thoughts about using CS3?

Will the photos be as good as one can get, IQ and color wise? Thanks,
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Nov 03, 2009 17:26 |  #2

DPP can certainly convert them to a tiff that CS3 can open, but the DNG converter comes from Adobe -- you can download it for free.

I haven't messed with the smaller Raw formats and don't know how they would work in DNG into CS3. I do know that if you convert a 7D file to DNG for CS3 you should set the DNG option to be "ACR 4.6" compatible so that CS3 ACR doesn't choke on a CS4-compatible file.

Tiffs, if saved a 16 bits, are good quality (the image hasn't been compressed and all the bits are still there), but be sure you set your white balance correctly in DPP -- you lose some range once you convert to a tiff. In fact, I'd probably want to do as much as possible in DPP to take as much advantage of your Raw processing. 'Course, with the DNG format you won't have to worry about DPP.


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Nov 03, 2009 17:31 |  #3

Don Powell wrote in post #8949202 (external link)
Can 7D RAW, sRAW, and mRAW files be converted in DPP to either TIFF or DNG and then processed in CS3? Any other thoughts about using CS3?

You can certainly convert to TIFF from DPP. DNG conversion requires the DNG converter version 5.5 from Adobe.

Don Powell wrote in post #8949202 (external link)
Will the photos be as good as one can get, IQ and color wise?

They will only be as good or bad as your skill set, but converting to TIFF or DNG won't hurt the quality.


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Nov 04, 2009 00:06 |  #4

I have the Adobe DNG converter and ACR5.5 but it doesn't recognise 7D RAW or sRAW for some reason. I can however open RAW directly with After Effects CS3, but not sRAW.




  
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Nov 04, 2009 08:11 |  #5

ASGvideo wrote in post #8951297 (external link)
I have the Adobe DNG converter and ACR5.5 but it doesn't recognise 7D RAW or sRAW for some reason. I can however open RAW directly with After Effects CS3, but not sRAW.

You can't use ACR 5.5 with CS3. It only supports up to version 4.6 and doesn't support the 7D. That's why you'll need to convert to DNG. You CAN convert with DNG Converter version 5.5. Or use DPP.


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Nov 04, 2009 08:51 |  #6

Personally I'd convert to DNG with the free Adobe DNG converter, this way you are still working with a RAW file and they are considerably smaller than 16 bit TIFS!
Whether you decide to convert to DNG or TIF, I'd keep the original RAW/sRAW CR2 files. This way you can always go back over them if you ever upgrade to CS4/CS5/Lightroom etc.

Although you probably already though of that... ;)


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Nov 04, 2009 17:43 |  #7

ChasP505 wrote in post #8952513 (external link)
You can't use ACR 5.5 with CS3. It only supports up to version 4.6 and doesn't support the 7D. That's why you'll need to convert to DNG. You CAN convert with DNG Converter version 5.5. Or use DPP.

Well I didn't think ACR5.5 would work with CS3 but it does!

DPP won't remove my hot pixel, it just turns it into a little 3x3 pixel checker pattern with a 1 pixel black border around it. Why is that?

AE CS3 will open my RAW and will remove my hot pixel.

Adobe DNG converter won't recognise RAW or sRAW for me for ACR5.5 or 5.4 or 4.6, just keeps saying there are no raw images in this folder.

I am confused.




  
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Nov 04, 2009 17:56 |  #8

ASGvideo wrote in post #8955587 (external link)
Well I didn't think ACR5.5 would work with CS3 but it does!

I find this difficult to believe.


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Nov 04, 2009 18:12 as a reply to  @ ASGvideo's post |  #9

Thanks everyone. Now, if I understand correctly, I will have to wait for Adobe to add the 7D to their software. When, who knows.

The DNG converter will probably be available at the same time as CS4 will have the appropriate ACR.

Meanwhile, I would have to use DPP, convert to TIFF 16 bit ( large file ) and then use CS3.

I don't know about the ACR 5.5, does it really work in CS3, and will it eventually convert the 7D files ( sRAW mRAW and RAW )?

I'll probably just have to update to CS4, when Adobe adds the 7D.

In my other thread, it was called Sour Grapes, but no one read it that way. Sorry. Yes the 7D may have a couple glitches, but that won't stop me. No! the 7D is not a dud.




  
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Nov 04, 2009 21:14 |  #10

ChasP505 wrote in post #8955651 (external link)
I find this difficult to believe.

EDIT: Confirmed - when I import CR2 to AE CS3 it's definitely ACR5.5 that is opening the file. It works with RAW but not sRAW. Anyone know why DPP flags a hot pixel with a marker rather than removing it?




  
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Nov 05, 2009 07:59 |  #11

ASGvideo wrote in post #8956722 (external link)
EDIT: Confirmed - when I import CR2 to AE CS3 it's definitely ACR5.5 that is opening the file.

Something's not right here... What's "AE"?

From Adobe (external link):
"The Camera Raw 5.5 plug-in is not compatible with versions of Photoshop earlier than Photoshop CS4, versions of Photoshop Elements earlier than Photoshop Elements 6.0, or versions of Premiere Elements earlier than 4.0."


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Nov 05, 2009 09:24 |  #12

AE is probably Adobe Elements (PSE 7)? That would use ACR 5.5...

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So I open the CR2 in after effects

which makes no sense at all...


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Nov 05, 2009 10:37 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #13

So ASGVideo is opening the CR2 files from AfterEffects CS3, a video editing app (NOT Photoshop CS3), and it uses ACR 5.5. Interesting.


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Nov 05, 2009 16:57 |  #14

Yes I use the 7D for timelapse and open the image sequence in After Effects CS3 using ACR5.5, which is not supposed to work, but it does. Adobe DNG Converter which *is* supposed to work doesn't. I'm more of a video guy, but I use AE for stills as well, prefer it to photoshop.




  
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Nov 06, 2009 02:25 |  #15

ASGvideo wrote in post #8962202 (external link)
Yes I use the 7D for timelapse and open the image sequence in After Effects CS3 using ACR5.5, which is not supposed to work, but it does. Adobe DNG Converter which *is* supposed to work doesn't. I'm more of a video guy, but I use AE for stills as well, prefer it to photoshop.

Can you walk me through this process? I have cs3, but I don't understand how you've got ACR5.5, I cant install since I don't have photoshop cs4. When I try and open a cr2 file in AfterEffects CS3 i get an error "The file format module could not parse the file"

Ive tried DNG conversion into Bridge, using ACR 4.6, but the noise is wildly out of control. truly insane. So far, DPP handles much better initially, but Im not a huge fan of the tiff transfer method. Takes lots of space, and lots of time. And I miss ACR's tools

My AE is currently 8.0.2.27, and system is 10.5.8




  
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