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Dec 04, 2009 04:34 |  #3961

Just found this, it is the Met's official website here (external link)

Photography advice
The Metropolitan Police Service’s approach towards photography in public places is a subject of regular debate.

We encourage officers and the public to be vigilant against terrorism but recognise the balance between effective policing and protecting Londoners and respecting the rights of the media and the general public to take photographs.

Guidance around the issue has been made clear to officers and PCSOs through briefings and internal communications. The following advice is available to all officers and provides a summary of the Metropolitan Police Service’s guidance around photography in public places.

Freedom to photograph/ film
Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel.

Terrorism Act 2000
Photography and Section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000

The Terrorism Act 2000 does not prohibit people from taking photographs or digital images in an area where an authority under section 44 is in place.

Officers have the power to view digital images contained in mobile telephones or cameras carried by a person searched under S44 of the Terrorism Act 2000, provided that the viewing is to determine whether the images contained in the camera or mobile telephone are of a kind, which could be used in connection with terrorism. Officers also have the power to seize and retain any article found during the search which the officer reasonably suspects is intended to be used in connection with terrorism.

Officers do not have the power to delete digital images or destroy film at any point during a search.

Photography and Section 43 of the Terrorism Act 2000

Officers have the power to stop and search a person who they reasonably suspect to be a terrorist. The purpose of the stop and search is to discover whether that person has in their possession anything which may constitute evidence that they are a terrorist.

Officers have the power to view digital images contained in mobile telephones or cameras carried by a person searched under S43 of the Terrorism Act 2000 to discover whether the images constitute evidence that the person is involved in terrorism. Officers also have the power to seize and retain any article found during the search which the officer reasonably suspects may constitute evidence that the person is a terrorist. This includes any mobile telephone or camera containing such evidence.

Officers do not have the power to delete digital images or destroy film at any point during a search.

Section 58a of the Terrorism Act 2000

Section 58a of the Terrorism Act 2000 covers the offence of eliciting, publishing or communicating information about members of the armed forces, intelligence services or police.

Any officer making an arrest for an offence under Section 58a must be able to demonstrate a reasonable suspicion that the information was of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.

It should ordinarily be considered inappropriate to use Section 58a to arrest people photographing police officers in the course of normal policing activities, including protests, as without more, there is no link to terrorism.

There is however nothing preventing officers asking questions of an individual who appears to be taking photographs of someone who is or has been a member of Her Majesty’s Forces (HMF), Intelligence Services or a constable.

Guidelines for MPS staff on dealing with media reporters, press photographers and television crews

Members of the media can, like any other person, be stopped and searched under s44 of the Terrorism Act 2000. They may also be stopped and searched under S43 of the Terrorism Act 2000 if an officer reasonably suspects that they are a terrorist. However, where it is clear that the person being searched is a journalist, officers should exercise caution before viewing images as images acquired or created for the purposes of journalism may constitute journalistic material and should not be viewed without a Court Order.

Contact with photographers, reporters and television crews is a regular occurrence for many officers and staff. The media influences our reputation so it's crucial to maintain good working relations with its members, even in difficult circumstances.

Following these guidelines means both media and police can fulfil their duties without hindering each other.

Creating vantage points
When areas are cordoned off following an incident, creating a vantage point, if possible, where members of the media at the scene can see police activity, can help them do their job without interfering with a police operation. However, media may still report from areas accessible to the general public.

Identifying the media
Genuine members of the media carry identification, for instance the UK Press Card, which they will present on request.

The press and the public
If someone distressed or bereaved asks the police to stop the media recording them, the request can be passed on to the media, but not enforced.

Access to incident scenes
The Senior Investigating Officer is in charge of granting members of the media access to incident scenes. In the early stages of investigation, evidence gathering and forensic retrieval take priority over media access, but, where appropriate, access should be allowed as soon as is practicable.

Film Unit
The aim of the Metropolitan Police Service Film Unit is to be a central point of contact, to co-ordinate, facilitate and bring consistency to those people filming in London with MPS support.

We work together with Film London and stakeholders of the Film London Partnership to make London accessible, whilst minimising inconvenience to Londoners and increasing the economic benefits of filming.

For more information please visit the Film Unit web site.


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Dec 04, 2009 04:38 |  #3962

Ray.Petri wrote in post #9132779 (external link)
I heard it too. Both on radio and TV. A very even tempered response by Andy Trotter - I was impressed by his response.

For those that missed it;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/i​player/episode/b00p1hl​0/Today_04_12_2009/ (external link)

Scroll forward to 2:50:10
It's not long, but worth a listen....


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Dec 04, 2009 04:45 |  #3963

Thanks for posting that Adrian. Looks to be very clear.


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Dec 04, 2009 04:53 |  #3964

It would be a good idea to print a copy of it off ( from the met site so it looks official ) if you are concerned as not everyone will have read it. Remember the city as a different police force and I do not know what they have done but the laws apply to England and Wales.


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Dec 04, 2009 05:02 |  #3965

Swaffs wrote in post #9132784 (external link)
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Can I once again please ask for 5 minutes of your time to review something...

I am creating an end of season yearbook for the 2009 Triumph Triple Challenge.
A one make motorcycle raing series that I am the official tog for.
After many discussions and changing of minds, I have gone back to my tried and tested providor.
Photobox.

What I didn't realise Is I can post the book online for viewing/ordering!

Therefore I have shared the yearbook, and would really appreciate your feedback, before I send it to the event organiser for viewing (he's not signing it off or anything, but I'd like to show him as courtesy)
I can't decide if to add text to each page or not.

Link here;
http://www.photobox.co​.uk/creation/254890170 (external link)
(please click the full screen option for best viewing)


Rich, the yearbook looks great!
My only suggestion would be to add slightly thicker seperation lines on pages 5,11 etc, as they can be slightly confusing to the eye. I think this epecially applies to page 5 where the top two images have track that almost lines up, but not quite and looks slightely odd.
Other than that it looks spot on and I imagine you should get plenty of sales :)


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Dec 04, 2009 05:13 as a reply to  @ adrian5127's post |  #3966

Box Brownie wrote in post #9129517 (external link)
Not sure where Queensbury are 'positioned' but have a look Middlewall Album Company.

HTH :)

Thanks, I'll take a gander.

adrian5127 wrote in post #9130086 (external link)
Joined the Met photographic Society a while ago but went to the first meet tonight. They normally have speakers but they decided to have a competition tonight.

Brian Griffin ( portrait photographer ) gave cc and judged and chose this picture of the seal as the winner. Prize was Damien Lovegroves book on wedding photography.

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Cool, congrats!

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I don't think I ever really had a clue how to use it before anyway. ;)

Low down with a wide angle if I remeember correctly! ;) :p

Welcome home!

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I suspect 2 or 3 quiet shifts at work will probably be enough time to rack up a few hundred meaningless posts to reclaim the top spot.

Looking at what I missed last night it may be sooner than that even!! :D

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Just found this, it is the Met's official website here (external link)

Excellent, thanks for that.


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Dec 04, 2009 05:29 |  #3967

Swaffs wrote in post #9132856 (external link)
For those that missed it;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/i​player/episode/b00p1hl​0/Today_04_12_2009/ (external link)

Scroll forward to 2:50:10
It's not long, but worth a listen....

Thanks for that. That was indeed worth a listen and the points put forward were reasonable. Hope the message is indeed reinforced with police officers.

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Dec 04, 2009 05:34 as a reply to  @ Wendelius's post |  #3968

The BBC also has a follow up blog entry here: http://www.bbc.co.uk …_the_eyes_of_th​e_law.html (external link)

It's also worth a read.

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Dec 04, 2009 05:53 as a reply to  @ Mike's post |  #3969

Well done Adrian

Many thanks


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Dec 04, 2009 05:59 |  #3970

Swaffs wrote in post #9132784 (external link)
Guys (and gals)
Can I once again please ask for 5 minutes of your time to review something...

I am creating an end of season yearbook for the 2009 Triumph Triple Challenge.
A one make motorcycle raing series that I am the official tog for.
After many discussions and changing of minds, I have gone back to my tried and tested providor.
Photobox.

What I didn't realise Is I can post the book online for viewing/ordering!

Therefore I have shared the yearbook, and would really appreciate your feedback, before I send it to the event organiser for viewing (he's not signing it off or anything, but I'd like to show him as courtesy)
I can't decide if to add text to each page or not.

Link here;
http://www.photobox.co​.uk/creation/254890170 (external link)
(please click the full screen option for best viewing)

as said I agree some early pages need more room around them, page 11 I keep seeing a line going vertically through the top left image but its caused by the two images below joint :confused: if you get me :)


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Dec 04, 2009 06:08 |  #3971

@ Rich - looks like I am in the minority in respect of "text" but I suppose I see it as mentioned as to who the target audience is TTC followers and togs will enjoy it for what it is but I still think that for some there would be an interest of need ing to know what was being looked. I wonder therefore if you have like an index page with a list of contents details to avoid cluttering the individual pages with blurb???


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Dec 04, 2009 06:49 |  #3972

Guess who has internet back at home!!!


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Dec 04, 2009 06:56 |  #3973

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Guess who has internet back at home!!!

Oh Noes!
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Love your taser by the way KC - that is exactly what i was product testing on the baby seal, but just dont tell the guys over on "that other forum" :lol:


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Dec 04, 2009 07:00 |  #3974

Thanks for all your feedback.
I have asked the event owner if he would like to write a 'foreward' page. And I might also put a page in the back with sponsors logos.

I have cleaned up and added some text in the early pages, what do you think now? Does the text add value?

http://www.photobox.co​.uk/creation/254890170 (external link)


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Dec 04, 2009 07:07 |  #3975

Swaffs wrote in post #9133195 (external link)
Thanks for all your feedback.
I have asked the event owner if he would like to write a 'foreward' page. And I might also put a page in the back with sponsors logos.

I have cleaned up and added some text in the early pages, what do you think now? Does the text add value?

http://www.photobox.co​.uk/creation/254890170 (external link)

Looks good with text for us "not in the know"


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