Microsoft has officailly lost my business

Well in a time span of 3 days my laptop stopped working, Vista has been acting up very poorly, and my Xbox 360 died, red ring o death. I was trying to burn a DVD a couple weeks ago and it took longer than usual but still worked. I tried to burn a cd with 79 pictures 323 MB on saturday, and it took 2 hours, tttwwwwooo hours for my laptop, it used to take 5 minutes no lie to burn that much information.

That was going to be ok thought because my Dad has a copy of XP laying around that he gave me, and a coworker actually has a copy of Windows 7 that he is going to let me have so that works out great since I will get to try that and if nothing else go to XP.

Then last night I got home from dinner with some friends and was going to watch Friends with my GF, I use my xbox for DVDs too so I turned it on and I made sure that I waited until after the new Xboxs had come out with the new chipsets that were supposed to fix this problem. Well I can tell you that they did not work, I rarely use my xbox and mine still broke, it sucks.

So I have decided that when the next generation of systems come out, if not sooner I will be going back to playstation, in addition, I will be buying an apple for a new computer when I need one in the next few years unless I decide to try Ubuntu at some point. So I know its not a lot of money that they would get from just one customer, but congrats Microsoft, you have lost me as a customer.

Welcome to Apple. Hope you enjoy your stay.

Are you sure the issue with the laptop is specifically related to the OS? It's not something related to hardware, age of the laptop, memory, motherboard, has never been defragged, hard drive space nearing capacity, has a virus or malware impacting performance, etc?

no viruses, its 6 months old, 3gb ram, 70 gb free on a 320 hdd, dual core processor, pretty sure its not too old, and i defrag at the minimum once a month.

It sounds like none of these things have to do with software, just hardware. The laptop is NOT a microsoft product, and your 360 WAS recalled (you could call them up and ask for the fix). Perhaps vista is a bit screwy, but if it took you three days to decide something was wrong, that's just being careless, and no product will be able to help you, microsoft, apple, or not.

Better thing for you, get an external hard drive, usb flash stick, and lili for the flash stick. You'll be able to backup everything you had, and determine if the failure was software. If the cd works and burns in ubuntu, just reformat the computer with vista, and install ONLY the software you need. Most issues are caused by random installing and uninstalling of programs you may not actually need or that contain malware/contract ware (like those annoying toolbars and stuff). If it's hardware issue, tough luck, it'll happen to any laptop, and in fact MBP and MB have just as high a rate of failure as any other slot loader drive, and more than tray loading ones.

As for the 360, call up microsoft, they may be able to help.

EDIT: Can't really say recalled, simply that you get free servicing on it.

footballdude2k3 wrote in post #8983185
...congrats Microsoft, you have lost me as a customer.

Yawwnn....

Did Microsoft make your CD Burner?

Did Microsoft make your laptop?

And you know that Microsoft doesn't actually make the Xbox right? They do make the software that runs it - but other companies build the hardware.

Could have been a bad CD - that happens you know. Some of the CD-R's are just messed up once and awhile.

footballdude2k3 wrote in post #8983185
I was trying to burn a DVD a couple weeks ago and it took longer than usual but still worked. I tried to burn a cd with 79 pictures 323 MB on saturday, and it took 2 hours, tttwwwwooo hours for my laptop, it used to take 5 minutes no lie to burn that much information.

300% guarantee you that's hardware.

people blame everything on microsoft, jesus.

HyperYagami wrote in post #8999951
people blame everything on microsoft, jesus.

It's usually a good place to start!

Have you verified that your Windows installation hasn't performed one of the favourite Microsoft tricks to make disk accesses slow? In case you get too many transfer errors from the CD, Windows likes to downgrade the DMA mode. If already using the slowest DMA mode, then it turns off DMA and starts using PIO mode. Suddenly, the computer will crawl. High CPU load and lousy transfer speeds.

Easiest fix - delete the IDE controller and restart the machine. It will autodetect the IDE controller and start with best mode again.

The downgrade is intended to help when you have bad cables resulting in transfer errors. But with one DVD drive I had, it happened whenever I inserted a damaged disk. Somehow, the broken sectors on the disk either made the drive too slow or resulted in incorrect checksum received by Windows.

So yes, suspecting Microsoft really is a good start.

pwm2 wrote in post #9000065
Have you verified that your Windows installation hasn't performed one of the favourite Microsoft tricks to make disk accesses slow? In case you get too many transfer errors from the CD, Windows likes to downgrade the DMA mode. If already using the slowest DMA mode, then it turns off DMA and starts using PIO mode. Suddenly, the computer will crawl. High CPU load and lousy transfer speeds.

Easiest fix - delete the IDE controller and restart the machine. It will autodetect the IDE controller and start with best mode again.

The downgrade is intended to help when you have bad cables resulting in transfer errors. But with one DVD drive I had, it happened whenever I inserted a damaged disk. Somehow, the broken sectors on the disk either made the drive too slow or resulted in incorrect checksum received by Windows.

So yes, suspecting Microsoft really is a good start.

I think you said it yourself, your disk was bad and/or bad cables. Sorry, but both those are classified as hardware issues. Nobody here's saying that the software isn't the one slowing things down, we are all saying it's bad hardware that is at the root of the problem. Rather than treating the symptoms, it's better to treat the root of the disease instead.

This thread just got a whole lot shorter and if people start using to preach about why one system is better than the other it will get closed.

footballdude2k3 it is clear you have a hardware problem with the laptop.
That is not microsofts fault, and it is most likely repairable.
If that is enough of a problem for you to go and buy a Mac then do so, or if you would like some help diagnosing the problem so it can be fixed then let us know.

Otherwise, as I've said to many others before, whining and complaining about it on the internet won't fix anything.

Whatever preferences people have for different systems - this link is still relevant since it shows how to fix a known Windows problem that has hit a lot of people and that results in CD burners starting to take hours to burn, instead of just minutes.
http://club.myce.com …sta-xp-2000-me-9x-101616/

pwm2 wrote in post #9000065
Have you verified that your Windows installation hasn't performed one of the favourite Microsoft tricks to make disk accesses slow? In case you get too many transfer errors from the CD, Windows likes to downgrade the DMA mode. If already using the slowest DMA mode, then it turns off DMA and starts using PIO mode. Suddenly, the computer will crawl. High CPU load and lousy transfer speeds.

Easiest fix - delete the IDE controller and restart the machine. It will autodetect the IDE controller and start with best mode again.

The downgrade is intended to help when you have bad cables resulting in transfer errors. But with one DVD drive I had, it happened whenever I inserted a damaged disk. Somehow, the broken sectors on the disk either made the drive too slow or resulted in incorrect checksum received by Windows.

So yes, suspecting Microsoft really is a good start.

BAD IDEA!

Depending on what version of Windows you have, deleting the IDE controller and then just rebooting could mean you won't be able to boot up period.

You can easily change DMA modes in the devices properties if you're concerned about this - though I've never heard of it happening.

Moppie wrote in post #9000947
This thread just got a whole lot shorter and if people start using to preach about why one system is better than the other it will get closed.

footballdude2k3 it is clear you have a hardware problem with the laptop.
That is not microsofts fault, and it is most likely repairable.
If that is enough of a problem for you to go and buy a Mac then do so, or if you would like some help diagnosing the problem so it can be fixed then let us know.

Otherwise, as I've said to many others before, whining and complaining about it on the internet won't fix anything.

Do you work for microsoft?

Why won't you let people express their own opinions about microsoft?