Badminton anyone?

First time shooting badminton. It was inside a gymnasium and lighting wasn't too great (but still good)... I shot mainly at 1/30 f2.8. The ones I'm posting here are quite bearable since there weren't too much movements, but the ones with lots of action came out quite blurry (soft).

It was stupid of me not to try, but do you think I would've gotten decent moving pictures by using 1/200 or something faster with higher focus (like f22)?

Here is another one...

Faster shutter and smaller aperture would both serve to let in even less light than what you shot at. My guess is 1/200 and f22 would give you a black picture.

Here are two of faster moving pictures... As you can see, they are quite blurry... Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

mgardner wrote in post #8985948
Faster shutter and smaller aperture would both serve to let in even less light than what you shot at. My guess is 1/200 and f22 would give you a black picture.

You're right. I think I remember trying that setup and was getting black picture...

I think I was getting the best quality with 1/30 and f2.8 (manual mode and even program mode).

How do you guys take such great, crisp, and fast paced action pictures?

Increase your ISO if you can. Have you tried shooting with your 580?

mgardner wrote in post #8986009
Increase your ISO if you can. Have you tried shooting with your 580?

I think it was already at 1600.. or you mean go higher?

and I was not shooting with any flash... I didn't think I needed to...

The shutter speed being too slow is what's causing the motion blur, so to get rid of the motion blur you will need to increase shutter speed. This will let in less light which will underexpose the shot unless you compensate for that by increasing the sensor's sensitivity to light (increasing ISO), use a wider aperture(only possible with your 50 1.4), or add light (flash).

With your 50 1.4 @1.4 and ISO set to 3200 you should be able to get 1/250" shutter speed. This will improve your motion blur considerably but you will find you are now battling noise due to high ISO and narrow depth of field due to the wide aperture.

yes go higher than 1600
remove the noise in post processing the best you can
using your 580 would definatly help as long as its aloud and the players dont mind it going off
keep trying

mgardner wrote in post #8986086
The shutter speed being too slow is what's causing the motion blur, so to get rid of the motion blur you will need to increase shutter speed. This will let in less light which will underexpose the shot unless you compensate for that by increasing the sensor's sensitivity to light (increasing ISO), use a wider aperture(only possible with your 50 1.4), or add light (flash).

mgardner wrote in post #8986141
With your 50 1.4 @1.4 and ISO set to 3200 you should be able to get 1/250" shutter speed. This will improve your motion blur considerably but you will find you are now battling noise due to high ISO and narrow depth of field due to the wide aperture.

Thank you very much for kind explanation. I get the idea now, and will try it in the future.

Change the focus point to the center spot too.. the drinking fountain and wall and the floor all around the player are focused, though that's a very minor until you increase ISO to get the shutter speed up. You'll need noise reduction eventually also.

joonrhee,

Welcome. I enjoy seeing your pictures. It will help everyone to know the shutter speed, aperture and ISO of each picture taken. You will need to post those or leave them attached to your pictures (EXIF data).

Sports action shots will need to have a shutter speed of at least 1/400 second and preferable even faster in order to stop fast action. 1/640 sec is better! That usually means an aperture of 2.8 or larger (note: f/22 is a smaller aperture even though 22 is a larger number than 2.8 It also means high ISO like 3200. These numbers will vary depending on the gymnasium lighting.

You have some very nice equipment that is well suited for sports. When you shoot at that facility at f/2.8 (Av aperture preferred) and ISO 3200, what shutter speed do you get?

Once we get those numbers, we can advise you on how to proceed from there.

Phil


Here are some pro sports photography tips:

http://web.mac.com …Site/Podcast/Po​dcast.html

DHMN wrote in post #8987918
Change the focus point to the center spot too.. the drinking fountain and wall and the floor all around the player are focused, though that's a very minor until you increase ISO to get the shutter speed up. You'll need noise reduction eventually also.

Thank you. I'll keep that in mind.

Zivnuska wrote in post #8988656
joonrhee,

Welcome. I enjoy seeing your pictures. It will help everyone to know the shutter speed, aperture and ISO of each picture taken. You will need to post those or leave them attached to your pictures (EXIF data).

Sports action shots will need to have a shutter speed of at least 1/400 second and preferable even faster in order to stop fast action. 1/640 sec is better! That usually means an aperture of 2.8 or larger (note: f/22 is a smaller aperture even though 22 is a larger number than 2.8 It also means high ISO like 3200. These numbers will vary depending on the gymnasium lighting.

You have some very nice equipment that is well suited for sports. When you shoot at that facility at f/2.8 (Av aperture preferred) and ISO 3200, what shutter speed do you get?

Once we get those numbers, we can advise you on how to proceed from there.

Phil


Here are some pro sports photography tips:

http://web.mac.com …Site/Podcast/Po​dcast.html

I'm afraid I will not be shooting anytime soon. Probably towards end of this year or early next year... But, thank you so much for your tip about shutter speed needing to be at least 1/400sec to shoot sports shots. Next time, I'll try at 2.8 with ISO 3200 in Av, and find out what shutter speed I get. Thanks again!!

If your staying with an aperture of 2.8, you will only gain one stop. In other words you will go from 1/30" to 1/60". You need about three more stops than that.