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Nov 14, 2009 09:06 |  #1

Welcome to the On Camera Flash Thread -- dedicated to saving from oblivion that staple of paparazzi and birthday party photography -- the shoe mounted strobe.

The goal of this thread is to let people show how creative one can be with a camera mounted flash gun. Using flash on-camera has taken it on the chin of late (Damn you strobist! :) ) as it is quite simply the fastest way to get mediocre results.

But that doesn't mean that you can't get awesome results too. Modern Flashguns with swivel heads can be aimed anywhere -- meaning with a little creativity, and extra time, you can get almost identical results as the off camera guy -- at a fraction of the cost.

Rules for posting:

1) On Camera Flash (aka OnCF) is defined as any maker strobe mounted in the camera hotshoe. ONLY ONE FLASH PER PICTURE -- THE ONE IN THE SHOE!
2) Modifiers of any kind, shape, size, and flavor are allowed and encouraged. Ringflash modifiers ARE allowed. Please briefly describe your modifier in your post.
3) Ambient light is your friend. Use it for fill, as your main -- just make sure something happened with your OnCF somewhere in the frame.
4) Please note in your pic whether you shot TTL or Manual -- another victim of the OCF movement is the idea that TTL is evil. Would love to see some awesome results using the systems programmed in the camera.


Why OnCF?

1) Its cheap
2) Its handy and fast. Photos are about moments, and having the light on camera means you can catch more of those moments.
3) Modifiers are easy to make and cheap to buy.
4) Its educational. Like math in school, its about problem solving. Figuring out how to duplicate an effect using OnCF will make your off camera efforts better and more rewarding.
5) Oh yeah -- its cheap!


So there you go. Post away -- feel free to recycle some photos from other threads to get the party started.

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Nov 14, 2009 09:41 |  #2

I took this shot of my girlfriend Marti in NYC last week.

ISO 6400 f/5.6 1/50th manual camera settings, TTL flash with -3 FEC
Flash was aimed over my left shoulder and bounced off a building


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Nov 14, 2009 09:46 |  #3

RichNY wrote in post #9013436 (external link)
I took this shot of my girlfriend Marti last week.

ISO 6400 f/5.6 1/50th manual camera settings, TTL flash with -3 FEC
Flash was aimed over my left shoulder and bounced off a building

Hey Rich

Nice photo. Was there much of a color cast from the building?


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Nov 14, 2009 10:07 |  #4

mattograph wrote in post #9013463 (external link)
Hey Rich

Nice photo. Was there much of a color cast from the building?

There was a slight color cast that was corrected with a quick fix to the white balance. I am no longer concerned about bouncing off walls with color; just go for the large soft light source and directional light- color tint is an easy fix.

Compare my first shot with this shot that used direct flash. The direct flash shot is flat and does not provide the same 3D shape that shadows from a directional light source provides. Because the OCF is a much smaller light source than the side of the building the shadows under her chin are much harder and the transfer between the diffuse value of her face and the shadow area is much more abrupt.

There is no need to get the flash off the camera's hotshoe if you bounce the light and can create the same large soft directional light that OCF is known to provide.


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Nov 14, 2009 10:32 |  #5

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Strobist info: 550EX 1/1 power camera left | 580EX II 1/2 power on camera | 430EX 1/1 power inside the SUV/VAN | 580EX II 1/2 power camera left | Triggered via 580EX II on camera
Camera info: Canon EOS 1D Mark III | EF 16-35mm ƒ/2.8L USM | 1/300 ƒ/16 ISO100

On camera flash was used as master trigger and to provide on axis/direct lighting.

Joey- You made a really great image here but the point of this thread is to show just what can be created with a single on camera flash. Your image has multiple off camera flashes and is opposite the nature of this particular thread.


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Nov 14, 2009 10:38 |  #6

Sorry about that Joey. Rich is on target. Your photo totally rocks -- I apologize for not being clear. No worries though! :)


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Nov 14, 2009 10:45 |  #7

RichNY wrote in post #9013554 (external link)
There was a slight color cast that was corrected with a quick fix to the white balance. I am no longer concerned about bouncing off walls with color; just go for the large soft light source and directional light- color tint is an easy fix.

Compare my first shot with this shot that used direct flash. The direct flash shot is flat and does not provide the same 3D shape that shadows from a directional light source provides. Because the OCF is a much smaller light source than the side of the building the shadows under her chin are much harder and the transfer between the diffuse value of her face and the shadow area is much more abrupt.

There is no need to get the flash off the camera's hotshoe if you bounce the light and can create the same large soft directional light that OCF is known to provide.

Hey Rich

Great description. Thanks for sharing the "before/after" thinking.

You hit the point of this thread square on the head.


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IMAGE: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3416/3574422985_574c9eec96_b.jpg

Flash bounced over my right shoulder into a closet door. The bubbles made a huge fill card, and killed my modeling. ETTL at +.3 FEC, 3200 iso. Frames by on one.

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Nov 14, 2009 14:07 |  #9

That is lovely soft light.


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Nov 14, 2009 14:23 |  #10

Was on a boat in the middle of a lake shooting the sunset. Nothing spectacular so we headed home. Was just fooling around with the on-camera flash. The Canon 50D's screen made it easy to fine tune the light and composition. Did some minimal darkening (burning) on the right-side of the image using Lightroom.

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Nov 14, 2009 17:35 |  #11

mattograph wrote in post #9014000 (external link)
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Flash bounced over my right shoulder into a closet door. The bubbles made a huge fill card, and killed my modeling. ETTL at +.3 FEC, 3200 iso. Frames by on one.

This is a beautiful shot Matt! Subscribed! This is exactly what I have been looking for. ( I also have been thinking of using bubbles in a toddler portrait. Glad to know it is doable.) Thanks. I will share when I get some.


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Nov 14, 2009 17:38 |  #12

Posted this earlier in the "Sharpest Photo" thread but it fits here as well.

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580EXII + 5DC + 17-40 .. 1/125 @ f/16 ISO 100 FEC +3

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Nov 14, 2009 17:42 as a reply to  @ FlyingPhotog's post |  #13

Here is mine. I think it was bounced up over my shoulder camera right I believe.

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Nov 14, 2009 17:43 |  #14

Jay, that is awesome -- and sharp!


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Nov 14, 2009 17:43 |  #15

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Jay, that is awesome -- and sharp!

Gracias... :D


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