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Mar 22, 2010 06:18 |  #136

CliveyBoy wrote in post #9843971 (external link)
I see that PixelHK are now listing the TR-332 on eBay.

The information I have at present suggests that it would be prudent to not buy yet. There are things to like, but too much is not yet working.

Like what is not yet working?




  
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Mar 22, 2010 06:57 |  #137

eya wrote in post #9845854 (external link)
Like what is not yet working?

I'm also curious - mainly because I just bought a set...




  
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Mar 22, 2010 09:03 |  #138

QuickSnap wrote in post #9845932 (external link)
I'm also curious - mainly because I just bought a set...

Have you found that they work satisfactorily?




  
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Mar 22, 2010 14:32 |  #139

Roy Mathers wrote in post #9846461 (external link)
Have you found that they work satisfactorily?

I haven't received them yet (just bought them on ebay yesterday) and it looks like I won't be getting them at all. I received an email from the seller asking for details of camera and flash I intend to use. I replied that I'll be using a 5D and 30D and 2 x 580 EX II's. The seller responded that they will only work with the following camera's - 5D Mk II, 7D, 50D, 40D, 550D and 500D. This is odd as the ebay description specifically stated that they are compatible with the 5D/5D mk II (and I recall another description mentioning compatibility with the 30D). Anyway, looks like I'll get a refund instead of risking incompatibility.




  
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Mar 22, 2010 14:46 |  #140

Wonder what are the compatibility issues?
As far as I know, all the current and recent Canon digital SLRs support ETTL-II as do the current Speedlites.

Only thing that makes any sense to me is that these cameras offer the ability to adjust flash functions via a camera menu.


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Mar 22, 2010 15:19 |  #141

QuickSnap, you have been saved from disappointment! Using a single 580EXII remote from a 50D allows a form of TTL. HSS is always on, and ranging from 1/30th sec to 1/8000 is seamless. Exposure is good. But, Flash Control menus is not available, nor the Knight's manual modes. Wireless master/slave modes are not available.

The only usable configuration is a single remote flash. Pixel may have fixed problems with a firmware update in the last 10 days, but I have yet to hear from them about this.


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Mar 22, 2010 16:29 |  #142

for those of you who have these, are there differences between these and Radiopoppers?


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Mar 22, 2010 17:30 |  #143

dmward wrote in post #9848651 (external link)
Wonder what are the compatibility issues?
As far as I know, all the current and recent Canon digital SLRs support ETTL-II as do the current Speedlites.

Only thing that makes any sense to me is that these cameras offer the ability to adjust flash functions via a camera menu.

It looks like E-TTL really isn't as simple as it may seem based on the fact that 3rd party E-TTL flash makers, like Sigma, Quantum, and Metz, usually have to "rechip" their flash units or come out with a firmware upgrade every now and then to make the flashes work with new EOS bodies. If E-TTL were that straight-forward, rechipping or firmware upgrades should not be necessary to make the flashes work with the new bodies, no?


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Mar 22, 2010 17:39 |  #144

Pixel have done well - so far. But they do not have a market-ready product. It's nice to see that focus-assist and modelling light works.

Leo, as you say the Canon flash system is no small deal, as RP and PW know all too well. I still hope that Pixel will produce a workable system.


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Mar 23, 2010 01:36 |  #145

CliveyBoy wrote in post #9848898 (external link)
QuickSnap, you have been saved from disappointment!

I think the RF-602's might be stop-gap solution while Pixel sorts this out; it looks like there's some good potential there.




  
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Mar 23, 2010 03:36 |  #146

QuickSnap wrote in post #9852495 (external link)
I think the RF-602's might be stop-gap solution while Pixel sorts this out; it looks like there's some good potential there.

Agreed. The RF602's can sync with my 50D's maximum sync speed just like the PW's. They are very reliable too. So until this new triggers with ETTL are functional and problem free, I'll stick with my 602's.

I reckon Canon might come up with a new ETTL system :lol::lol::lol:. So these 3rd parties will have a hard time!


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Mar 23, 2010 11:14 |  #147

From what CliveyBoy describes; The units deliver HSS to a remote flash. That is a very useful tool. The ratios, Groups etc. are nice but the biggest hangup with RF-602 type devices is the sync limit.

If the Pixel devices will fire 1, 2, or however many remotes are incorporated via receivers at any shutter speed, the manual mode on the flashes could be used just as they are with RF-602s.


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Mar 27, 2010 02:00 |  #148

Several more eBay sellers are carrying them now. Some have more detailed listings than others. Mostly priced $180 and below. Some listings have already sold sets, so look out for reviews.
http://desc.shop.ebay.​com …313&LH_TitleDes​c=1&_rdc=1 (external link)


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Apr 22, 2010 01:20 |  #149

CliveyBoy wrote in post #9848898 (external link)
QuickSnap, you have been saved from disappointment! Using a single 580EXII remote from a 50D allows a form of TTL. HSS is always on, and ranging from 1/30th sec to 1/8000 is seamless. Exposure is good. But, Flash Control menus is not available, nor the Knight's manual modes. Wireless master/slave modes are not available.

The only usable configuration is a single remote flash. Pixel may have fixed problems with a firmware update in the last 10 days, but I have yet to hear from them about this.

The latest version works surprisingly well. They have a more realistic statement of what the Pixel Knights do.

I am adopting them for my photography. See review.


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Nov 29, 2010 18:52 |  #150

found these for sale finally.. but no single receiver options for my other strobes.
http://www.dealextreme​.com/details.dx/sku.35​891 (external link)


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Glass: 16-35 f 2.8L | 24-70 f2.8L | 70-200 f2.8L| 100 F2.8 L Macro| 50mm f/1.2L|for sale 50mm f 1.4
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