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Nov 20, 2009 15:57 |  #1

hi. i'm totally new to strobe and lighting, so i wanted to ask the lighting genius' about this halogen light i saw at Home Depot for $5.88 for 500 watts.

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i currently own one ab800 and wanted to ask if buying two of these halogen lights would be a good/decent alternative for added lighting in addition to the ab800.

i am looking to shoot a car with and w/o a model. i'd also like to use the lights to give some back lighting whether it be a car or model.

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Nov 20, 2009 15:59 |  #2

Sorry to say it but that's a great work light and not a good light for photographic lighting.


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Nov 20, 2009 16:00 |  #3

Dont mix continuous lighting with flash. You can make it work by gelling your strobes to match the tungsten color of the work light, but thats just the beginning of your issues. That light might be bright enough to compete with the flash. Usually most tungsten lights arent powerful enough to actually add much to a photo, this might be the exception. Also these are hot and harsh, that might not be an issue behind a car to give some edge, but you wouldnt want to light a model with them.




  
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Nov 20, 2009 16:04 |  #4

Even though it's a 500W light, that's still significantly less light than a 500w/s strobe. The strobe puts out as much light, nearly instantly, as the 500W light puts out over an entire second, which makes it very hard to mix continuous and strobe lights. You could, possibly, do it with a car, but the continuous lights won't add enough to the strobes to do anything for a person.


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Nov 20, 2009 16:05 |  #5

TMR Design wrote in post #9052129 (external link)
Sorry to say it but that's a great work light and not a good light for photographic lighting.

thanks. i really wasn't lookin' to use this as a main source, maybe as backlgiht. at $5.88 i knew it was too good to be true!lol

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Dont mix continuous lighting with flash. You can make it work by gelling your strobes to match the tungsten color of the work light, but thats just the beginning of your issues. That light might be bright enough to compete with the flash. Usually most tungsten lights arent powerful enough to actually add much to a photo, this might be the exception. Also these are hot and harsh, that might not be an issue behind a car to give some edge, but you wouldnt want to light a model with them.

so i guess this won't replace another ab800, but could possibly work as back lighting - is that what i'm understanding?


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Nov 20, 2009 16:08 |  #6

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so i guess this won't replace another ab800, but could possibly work as back lighting - is that what i'm understanding?

Maybe, depending on how you expose your background, but remember its going to provide nasty yellow orange light if you white balance for the flash. If you have your camera handy, set your wb to flash, point it at an old tungsten light bulb and see what you get. Same thing only brighter




  
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Nov 20, 2009 16:12 |  #7

gonzogolf wrote in post #9052180 (external link)
Maybe, depending on how you expose your background, but remember its going to provide nasty yellow orange light if you white balance for the flash. If you have your camera handy, set your wb to flash, point it at an old tungsten light bulb and see what you get. Same thing only brighter

gotcha, that makes plenty of sense! i suppose at $5.88 a piece....these will have to do with just simple lighting while on location.

but the newb that i am, how does one light up a subject like a car....when there's very little ambient lighitng? do i use the model light on the AB?


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Nov 20, 2009 16:14 |  #8

Depends on what that light is. One option is to put the camera on a tripod, use a longish exposure to get the ambient light in the background then pop the flash to light up the car and model. If you have an AB800 try a shoot through umbrella for that wide soft light.




  
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Nov 20, 2009 16:15 |  #9

The modeling light on the ab just shows you where the shadows are falling relative to the flash. It goes off when the flash fires.




  
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Nov 20, 2009 16:16 |  #10

gonzogolf wrote in post #9052216 (external link)
Depends on what that light is. One option is to put the camera on a tripod, use a longish exposure to get the ambient light in the background then pop the flash to light up the car and model. If you have an AB800 try a shoot through umbrella for that wide soft light.

i ordered a medium octobox to shoot a car. hopefully that's more than sufficient.


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Nov 20, 2009 16:19 |  #11

Well your softbox is meant to control the spill side ways. In this instance you want light to spill as widely as possible. Skip the octobox for this one and go with a shoot through.

Do you understand my point about the longer shutter speed?




  
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gonzogolf wrote in post #9052256 (external link)
Well your softbox is meant to control the spill side ways. In this instance you want light to spill as widely as possible. Skip the octobox for this one and go with a shoot through.

Do you understand my point about the longer shutter speed?

i have the following on order...

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which softbox are you referring to?

and yes, i'm familiar with longer shutter speeds.

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Nov 20, 2009 16:36 |  #13

:shock: and you were gonna spend $12 bucks for lighting?!?!? :lol:


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Nov 20, 2009 16:37 |  #14

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:shock: and you were gonna spend $12 bucks for lighting?!?!? :lol:

cuz' after that order, i only have $12 left!!lol

seriously, i just thought it was be "cheap" added lighting. it was stacked up near the register and figured i'd pick up one.


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Nov 20, 2009 16:46 |  #15

I understand completely ;)...I think we all get that fleeting thought...that we've just discovered some new, cheap way to accomplish what would normally cost a fortune...only to be shot down in flames :cry:


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