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Tokina 11-16 vs. 12-24. Which ? (and why ?)

 
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Nov 21, 2009 01:10 |  #1

Hi everybody,

browsing thru different threads on this forum, I see that everybody tends to recommend the Tokina11-16 over the 12-24. Why is that ? I mean, at least Tokina must've had a reason to build the 12-24 while still building the 11-16 ! (I'd personally rather buy the second for my 50D, not least because it matches better the next lens on my wishlist, the 24-105L).


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Nov 21, 2009 01:13 |  #2

People favor it because of the 1mm extra on the wide end and the f/2.8. Personally, I'll be buying a Tokina 12-24mm II early next year because the f/2.8 is almost trivial at such a wide angle and the extra 1mm isn't important for my uses.


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Nov 21, 2009 01:19 |  #3

I owned both and preferred the 12-24. I liked having more range and did not really need the fast aperture of the 11-16 for my shooting. Both are great lenses. Just get the one that fits best with your shooting.


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Nov 21, 2009 01:19 |  #4

f2.8 is faster than F4. 12-24 is more zoom range than 11-16. Pick your poison.


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Nov 21, 2009 02:33 as a reply to  @ tkbslc's post |  #5

I personally like to use the 11-16 indoors for candid people shots. These are done without a flash, so the 2.8 comes in great. At 16mm, the lens has very little distortion and plays very well with people.


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Nov 21, 2009 04:55 |  #6

Not one of these questions again!?!?!?!?! ;) :)


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Nov 21, 2009 09:17 as a reply to  @ BeritOlam's post |  #7

I purchased the 12-24mm Tokina Mk-I when I was shooting with the 24-70L as my go-to, mid-range zoom. Additionally, the the time, Tokina had not released the 11-16mm. I absolutely LOVE my Tokina.

However, now that I am shooting with a 17-55mm f/2.8 IS lens as my go-to, mid-range zoom; the 11-16mm f/2.8 would be a better match. Additionally, the f/2.8 aperture would give me some additional flexibility.

HOWEVER, I absolutely love my present Tokina (I have experienced no major flare problems) and, although the f/4 is a stop slower and the f/2.8 is 1mm wider, the 12-24mm focal range does have an advantage.

I do like the 24mm side because the 38.4mm equivalent is almost a wide normal lens. On a forthcoming trip to China; I will bring my 30D and 40D cameras with 17-55mm f/2.8 IS and 70-200mm f/4L IS lenses as well as my 12-24mm Tokina. If the 17-55mm should crap out for some unexpected reason; I could limp along with my 12-24mm and 70-200mm lenses. I would not be comfortable shooting with a 11-16mm and 70-200mm.

Additonally, for a photographer who shoots with a single camera, the 12-24mm lens would probably lessen lens switching in the field.

That said, in view of my present equipment, if I did not own the 12-24mm and was considering a wide lens, I would definitely consider the 11-16mm because of the f/2.8 aperture.


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Nov 21, 2009 09:45 |  #8

you know...there should be plenty of threads comparing the two already.


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Nov 21, 2009 12:50 as a reply to  @ joosay's post |  #9

Thanks guys for your input.

(I'm sure such threads existed and will come back again. That gives the possibility to the knowledgeable to share their knowledge. And after they become more knowledgeable & experienced, to share a little of the plus with the rest of us. Oh ! but you didn't know that ?! :confused:)


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Nov 21, 2009 13:29 |  #10

the f/2.8 is fantastic! I couldn't miss my 11-15..


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Nov 21, 2009 13:40 |  #11

f2.8 is pretty useless to me on this focal length range.... And the 11-16 range must be one of the narrowest zooms around.

So I saved $150 or so and bought the 12-24/4 instead. I'd do the same again.

I've recently gotten a full frame camera in addition to my croppers... I was pleased to find the Toki 12-24 actually works on FF in a pinch, up to about 19 or 20mm before it starts to vignette (it has more barrel distortion on FF than the Canon 20/2.8 though). I doubt the 11-16 would be usable at all.

If I were using the 17-55 (instead of the 24-70 I use) I might consider the 11-16 instead. But only if I could get it at the same price as the 12-24 (hey, some overlap isn't a problem).

I notice the new Tamron 10-24 is priced right around $500 US, too. But I don't know if it's comparable in build or image quality. It does have a variable aperture, which is something I usually try to avoid (due to manual flash/studio strobe use).


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Nov 21, 2009 14:27 |  #12

amfoto1 wrote in post #9056942 (external link)
If I were using the 17-55 (instead of the 24-70 I use) I might consider the 11-16 instead. But only if I could get it at the same price as the 12-24 (hey, some overlap isn't a problem).

I notice the new Tamron 10-24 is priced right around $500 US, too. But I don't know if it's comparable in build or image quality. It does have a variable aperture, which is something I usually try to avoid (due to manual flash/studio strobe use).

(1) < Some overlap isn't a problem >: true, especially if the "following" lens has problems at the extremes, as is the case with some lenses when open wide or full long.

(2) < But I don't know if it's comparable in build or image quality> In some countries, you have the privilege of being able to rent some lenses and see if you like them. (We're not there yet.) You could try the Tamron and see if it suits you. But I get the feeling that the Toki has the best reviews.


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Nov 21, 2009 16:02 |  #13

amfoto1 wrote in post #9056942 (external link)
I doubt the 11-16 would be usable at all.

Actually the Tokina 11-16mm actually works down to 14 or 15mm or so, which still provide sharp image quality in FF, at least that's the research i had done.


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