Simple Nikon Vs. Canon Question

I know this is a canon forum duh!

i was just wondering what do you guys/gals think on a pure IQ stand point with no price cap on either side which is better? i dont care if its for wild life or sports or macro. The only restraint would be between crop sensors! non FF? which means no PP staright from the camera...thanks!

There is so little in it that its not worth worrying about

Mark Kemp wrote in post #9060397
There is so little in it that its not worth worrying about

so what do u think then? i dont even need to know why..and this is not even to start a big debate...just want opinions because im fairly new to slrs and just picked up a t1i ...just curious thats all

Between the APS-C cameras, it's fairly negligible. Don't get wrapped up about it. Enjoy your T1i.

^ That's what he thinks. There are more variations between end users than there are IQ differences between the Camera marques. You will take the best photo with the camera that best allows you to pursue your job/hobby.

From a pure IQ standpoint, they are equal, at this point. Canon might have had a high ISO advantage in the past, but that's gone.

Canon by a length or two.

eg6turbo wrote in post #9060317
I know this is a canon forum duh!

i was just wondering what do you guys/gals think on a pure IQ stand point with no price cap on either side which is better? i dont care if its for wild life or sports or macro. The only restraint would be between crop sensors! non FF? which means no PP staright from the camera...thanks!

If you're looking to get the best from a pure IQ point of view shoot in RAW and do the post processing yourself - doesn't matter if you shoot Canon or that other brand post processing is very important for getting the best out of your DSLR.

There is a simple, straight forward answer to your question.....

Wait for it....

IT ALL DEPENDS.

hmm i thought there would be a more definitive answer considering price wasnt and option on a Crop body. Ive seen some crazy amazing pics on both sides...as a newbie there isnt a measuring stick we can go off of beside our wallets.

eg6turbo wrote in post #9060493
as a newbie there isnt a measuring stick we can go off of beside our wallets.

And that's the mentality you need to get rid of. The spectacular photos you often see are the result of skill, experience and expert post-processing. Getting wrapped up about camera bodies when you're a newbie is highly counter-productive against getting good photos.

eg6turbo wrote in post #9060493
hmm i thought there would be a more definitive answer considering price wasnt and option on a Crop body. Ive seen some crazy amazing pics on both sides...as a newbie there isnt a measuring stick we can go off of beside our wallets.

YES. Hence my comment about the end user variation. It's YOU that matters, not the camera (at least in a general sense, and regarding Nikon vs. Canon). If you have specialized needs, then one might be better than the other.

Collin85 wrote in post #9060508
And that's the mentality you need to get rid of. The spectacular photos you often see are the result of skill, experience and expert post-processing. Getting wrapped up about camera bodies when you're a newbie is highly counter-productive against getting good photos.

Agreed! It is like asking which sports car is better with no mods. What type of track? 0-60? 1/4 mile? Comfort? Features? Finally, to get the best out of that car, you have to do some modifications or post processing on the vehicle, in order to get it to the numbers you see posted by others, plus you have to learn the nuances of that vehicle, best shift points, handling, which tires for grip, etc.

If somebody is beating somebody else using almost identically rated cars, it's usually driver skill and whatever mods were done to the car after the purchase.

Okay, now you guys are talking features, but he just asked purely about IQ. Let's not get sidetracked into another general Canon vs. Nikon thread.

Markitos wrote in post #9060524
Okay, now you guys are talking features, but he just asked purely about IQ. Let's not get sidetracked into another general Canon vs. Nikon thread.

Define IQ.... sharpness, color, contrast, 100% pixel, noise, all of these? Raw/Jpg? Then you may have to get into features because those control some of the processing of the camera. You would have to get into software to process the raw. What if one camera has astounding IQ that trounces all others, but it has no features and ergonomics stunk? You have to take the whole camera not just one aspect IMO.

To put a final nail into this coffin, opinions on IQ are not objective, they are subjective.

Collin85 wrote in post #9060508
And that's the mentality you need to get rid of. The spectacular photos you often see are the result of skill, experience and expert post-processing. Getting wrapped up about camera bodies when you're a newbie is highly counter-productive against getting good photos.

yeah thats so true! its just i see everyone talking about upgrading bodies from rebels to XXD to XD's it just seem higher up the food chain pics magically get better when i know this isnt the case. But as a beginner i knew i could go either way and just wanted some insight to whether or not the fork in the road i take will lead to a better destination...and im not a complete newbie to photography just slr's.