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Sep 22, 2010 09:38 |  #1321

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #10955799 (external link)
That would be fantastic.

I think so too, and I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I don't care for the creaky prosumer bodies with lousy AF (e.g. 5D). The 1v however, is different. The grip locks into the body much more solidly as well, so there's no flex between the two like on the prosumer bodies (that drove me nuts with big lenses).

What's also nice is that you can take a smaller-sized approach or you have the option of adding more juice and a faster frame rate.

All weathersealed like a real 1 series too. So no more "dead 5D2" stories.


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Sep 22, 2010 11:09 |  #1322

Double Negative wrote in post #10955901 (external link)
a smaller-sized approach or you have the option of adding more juice and a faster frame rate.

All weathersealed like a real 1 series too.

That camera would keep me with Canon.
But... it's been asked for for at least 8 years.
Look around, can you see one? No, you will never see one. It would be too simple,
too smart and too logical.
Instead we will have 5-10 variations of the Rebel and the will only be different
by the software options Canon will decide to cut or leave in each of them.
They sell tons of those Rebels, check out the amazon top list.


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Sep 22, 2010 12:22 as a reply to  @ snowboarder's post |  #1323

Guys, forget about 1Ds4!

Hasselblad just announces the new H4D-31 which is, in their own word, "...bringing the ultimate in image quality to high end 35mm DSLR photographers who want to step up to medium format..."

The price tag at US$14k isn't bad at all, given its bundle with a 80 HC lens (worth $2100 on its own)...

http://press.hasselbla​d.com …31/2010-09-22_h4d-31.aspx (external link)

Seems like the popular H4D is going to steal frustrating customers from Canon... :confused:


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Sep 22, 2010 14:18 |  #1324

waving_odd wrote in post #10956888 (external link)
Guys, forget about 1Ds4!

Hasselblad just announces the new H4D-31 which is, in their own word, "...bringing the ultimate in image quality to high end 35mm DSLR photographers who want to step up to medium format..."

The price tag at US$14k isn't bad at all, given its bundle with a 80 HC lens (worth $2100 on its own)...

http://press.hasselbla​d.com …31/2010-09-22_h4d-31.aspx (external link)

Seems like the popular H4D is going to steal frustrating customers from Canon... :confused:

Very nice! Buying that would totally dip into my Lexus fund. :)




  
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Sep 22, 2010 14:39 |  #1325

If I could fit my L glass on that I'd buy one.


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Sep 22, 2010 15:25 |  #1326

I think it would interest a lot of stills photogs who don't want 1Ds or DNx to have any video features but just long for a supreme DR, nicely high res (31 mp isn't high in MF though but definitely higher than FF and is nice as an entry-level MF), and professional grade AF (as a side note, H4D has an interesting new technology on AF by sensing camera angular movement during AF-lock-then-recomposition and re-adjusting focus automatically - as opposed to the strategy of increasing AF points adopted by Canon and Nikon).

And I think the price tag of H4D-31 is making the interest more intense!


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Sep 22, 2010 15:53 |  #1327

waving_odd wrote in post #10956888 (external link)
Guys, forget about 1Ds4!

Long forgotten, trust me. I gave up on waiting and instead got a Leica M9 and a CFV back for the Hasselblad. I'll just run my 1D2n into the dirt.


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Sep 22, 2010 15:54 as a reply to  @ waving_odd's post |  #1328

This would be a good route. $10K and weatherproofed! with lens.
http://www.dpreview.co​m …03/10031002pent​ax645d.asp (external link)


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Sep 22, 2010 16:10 |  #1329

downhillnews wrote in post #10958093 (external link)
This would be a good route. $10K and weatherproofed! with lens.
http://www.dpreview.co​m …03/10031002pent​ax645d.asp (external link)

I don't think it's available in the US yet.




  
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Sep 22, 2010 16:28 |  #1330

jdizzle wrote in post #10958158 (external link)
I don't think it's available in the US yet.


I know it will give me time to save.:D


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Sep 22, 2010 19:33 |  #1331

downhillnews wrote in post #10958249 (external link)
I know it will give me time to save.:D

One thing I like about that camera is that it's weatherproof. I assume when it's available, will it come as a kit?




  
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Sep 22, 2010 20:58 |  #1332

downhillnews wrote in post #10958093 (external link)
This would be a good route. $10K and weatherproofed! with lens.
http://www.dpreview.co​m …03/10031002pent​ax645d.asp (external link)

Not gonna lie, the specs do turn me on. I'm sure this involves a new mount/range of lenses for Pentax...right?


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Sep 22, 2010 22:12 |  #1333

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #10955797 (external link)
This is Canon we're talking about. What you propose would be a huge paradigm shift for them. I wouldn't hold my breath for it if I were you.

I agree, it would be a huge paradigm shift, so I'm not holding my breath at all.

Besides, I disagree that either one would have to be dropped if they got too close. Look at how close the D700 and D3 are. But again this is Canon, and they definitely have their product segmentation paranoia demons to deal with.

I'm not saying that they have to drop one if they get too close, I'm saying that based on Canon's historical tendency towards overprotection of their product line, it's extremely unlikely that they'll let two products in their line, that have such a huge price difference, get that close.

Canon can, of course, greatly disappoint once again by producing a 5Dmk3 with Yet Another Variation of their Fisher Price autofocus system. But if Nikon steps up to the plate and offers higher resolution and 1080p video in their D700 successor, Canon's offering will be a laughingstock. The previous offering gave video and a substantial improvement in high ISO performance, so wedding photographers and videographers, both of whom saw significant use for the video feature and quality, ate it up. But this time Canon will no longer have that to fall back on as a distinguishing characteristic. Game changing features such as video aren't something you can pull out of your hat every generation or two. The 5Dmk2's success is as much the product of luck as anything else.

So: if Canon keeps the 5D series on the same track and puts yet another variation of its Fisher Price autofocus system into the 5Dmk3, there's little they could do to make it a truly compelling upgrade for the current 5Dmk2 audience, and such a camera certainly won't be of much interest to new full-framers when, by that time, they'll be able to pick up a 1Ds3 for not much (if any) more money -- and get a real autofocus system on top of the other pro-level features the 1Ds3 has to offer. At that point, the only thing the 5Dmk3 would really get you over the 1Ds3 would be video and perhaps somewhat better high-ISO performance, and it would offer nothing over Nikon's inevitable successor to the D700.

If they finally put a real autofocus system in the 5Dmk3, then suddenly it's nipping at the heels of the 1Ds4 for anyone other than working pros, and that's something their marketing dweebs who control the company go through massive pains to avoid (just look at what they did with the 50D's "successor").

At that point the only thing they could do to really separate the 5Dmk3 from the 1Ds4 would be to put a massively high resolution, high dynamic range sensor in the 1Ds4 and not do the same for the 5Dmk3. I could see them doing that, because working pros would certainly pay the kind of premium that the 1Ds series commands in order to get medium-format levels of resolution and dynamic range.

And that last is really the only play I think Canon may have left that would allow them to keep their product differentiation intact while making the 5Dmk3 worth buying.


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Sep 22, 2010 22:24 |  #1334

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Not gonna lie, the specs do turn me on. I'm sure this involves a new mount/range of lenses for Pentax...right?

I'll be honest I am not sure that the older 645 lenses will AF on that body. But is listed that three different version of their 645 lenses that will fit it. You want to see something that will make U cry. Look at these files! A photo site in JAPAN has the full res files. CRAZY SHARP!

http://translate.googl​e.com …4_371978.html&s​l=ja&tl=en (external link)


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Sep 22, 2010 23:03 |  #1335

downhillnews wrote in post #10960167 (external link)
I'll be honest I am not sure that the older 645 lenses will AF on that body. But is listed that three different version of their 645 lenses that will fit it. You want to see something that will make U cry. Look at these files! A photo site in JAPAN has the full res files. CRAZY SHARP!

http://translate.googl​e.com …4_371978.html&s​l=ja&tl=en (external link)

See! You got me all excited now! Ugh! :)




  
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