Can a promoter stop you from posting photos on your website?

Were you going to sell the images on your site?
They have the right to prohibit sales and distribution of the images. It is their intellectual property.
They don't have a right to your images if you had a valid media pass.

Just noticed you were from Canada. I'm not familiar with laws there, sorry.

If you are just using them to show your portfolio, then I don't see why thats a problem. You aren't making a profit off of them.

wyofizz wrote in post #9105478
Just noticed you were from Canada. I'm not familiar with laws there, sorry.

I think that they are pretty much the same laws..

RickyH wrote in post #9105685
If you are just using them to show your portfolio, then I don't see why thats a problem. You aren't making a profit off of them.

Nope I am not making a profit off of them.... I never sell the photos from any event to anyone other than the promoters... And in this case, they want them for free and that isn't going to happen..

Kiddo wrote in post #9099968
Nope I'm not selling the images, just want to show my work that is all..

Posting the photos to your website would also be considered publishing them elsewhere and could be prohibited by the credential agreement.

I don't get it, if you had a press pass and a right to be there, I would have thought the issue of your images is between you and the local newspaper that you are working for (since it's work for hire). I would have to say, no, they don't have that right.

If you are there for the newspaper the only "right" you have is to take photos for the newpaper to publish. The photog has no personal rights to the photos other than he wouldn't have to hand them over. They notified him not to publish, that's their right. It's their intellectual property, just because he took the picture and it resides on his camera does not give him the right to publish it.

Kiddo wrote in post #9106395
I think that they are pretty much the same laws..

Quebec area is a little different but Canada and US are similar.

Kiddo wrote in post #9100733
I was kinda of thinking the same thing about them going out of their way... How can it be a private event if it's held in a huge venue? Why would anyone not want the press at their event?

Private events can even happen in public space, so this is private and their rules are what they set. They can limit you and not anyone else, fair no but up to them. Don't think it's not wanting press, it's thinking you're going to do something you shouldn't with the images or trying to stick it to you for the larger bill from earlier that seemed to of offended them.

Kiddo wrote in post #9101153
But really I think it's kinda dirty of them to tell me give them all to us for free or else...

Try to shoot a Coldplay concert

RickyH wrote in post #9105685
If you are just using them to show your portfolio, then I don't see why thats a problem. You aren't making a profit off of them.

Profit wouldn't have anything to do with it anyways - the whole profit argument is a misconception.

merlin2375 wrote in post #9109519
I don't get it, if you had a press pass and a right to be there, I would have thought the issue of your images is between you and the local newspaper that you are working for (since it's work for hire). I would have to say, no, they don't have that right.

Unless I missed it, don't see where this is a work-for-hire? Freelancing is not work for hire on all occasions when you're talking about what by law that term means (in the US).

wyofizz wrote in post #9110679
If you are there for the newspaper the only "right" you have is to take photos for the newpaper to publish. The photog has no personal rights to the photos other than he wouldn't have to hand them over. They notified him not to publish, that's their right. It's their intellectual property, just because he took the picture and it resides on his camera does not give him the right to publish it.

This is only true if he signed something saying that with either the paper or the promoter (like they wanted him to) or is a work for hire, full time employee of the paper and along those lines. Just because they get you a pass does not mean they own the rights unless you sign them over. Had many clients get me into events and they don't own any rights to my images, period! Haven't seen anywhere that he mentioned signing over rights so that means he owns them still unless Canada is like France (i.e. Quebec area)

IndyJeff wrote in post #9099906
Most credentials come with a stipulation that you are there to provide XXX with images from this event. Other sales of images from the event may be prohibited, even editorial. The NFL, NASCAR, IRL, MLB, NBA, NCAA all have this clause in the agreement you sign to cover the event. It's their dance, so they call the steps. If you are selling images and shooting on a credential for a paper then you may be in violation of the credential agreement and they do have a right to control the image content of their product.

Ah, an SS favorite

sounds like you pissed of a promoter, and now he has a vendetta against you.
you were working for the paper, they should be the first people you talk to
your best bet is to talk with the editor at the paper and see what he says
if he says no worries, post them to your blog, than do it.
if he says just let it go, we don't want to piss this guy off, then don't post them.

worst case scenario, keep them off your blog, but if you nailed some good ones, use 1 or 2 in your portfolio.

also

Kiddo wrote in post #9106395
I think that they are pretty much the same laws..

you might want to do some research, if you don't know your/our laws.
they are not the same as the in the usa.

I did speak to the chief photographer, and he spoke to the editor. So this is what was decided. The only two photos I can not post on my site or blog are the ones that are printed in the paper, which is fine with me.. Anything else, the paper said that I am free to do with as I wish. And the other thing is due to the promoters being rude to me, then trashing the paper a few days later on FB, they have decided that they will not be supporting this promoter and their events for awhile. The reason why they trashed the paper is because there was nothing printed about the event the following Monday. Our paper is pretty small and we had two reporters on the road and the other one covering other events that were going on in town that night. The promoter knew this and was suppose to send in the fight results and never did. I sent in my photos with a write up on each one, but it wasn't enough, they needed more info..

I have removed all of the photos that were posted from past events on my site from this promoter and wont be working with them again until the chief photographer says so...

Thank you everyone for your comments and suggestions.. And now i'm off to do a little more research on each province so that I know what the tog rules are for events and such.. I only read about NB not about anything else. Might even look up U.S. rules as well.

I shot the diesel drags when they came to the Baytown raceway. All pics were shot either from the stands or in the pits.
After posting them on my website I got a nice email from the promoter stating I didn't have the prior approval but if I would send them all the images for free, I could sell from my site.

I declined and removed the "Buy" button so they are still on display for viewing, just not for sale.

Aggrivating to say the least.

Yeah it is..

When I saw you were asking a promoter for $1000 I knew at that very point you weren't going to get it.

SnapLocally.com wrote in post #9159072
When I saw you were asking a promoter for $1000 I knew at that very point you weren't going to get it.

$1000 for the event, two press conferences and Ring girl comp, I don't think that is to much for everything...