Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Sports Talk 
Thread started 01 Dec 2009 (Tuesday) 16:40
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Gymnastics in Manual

 
slkfis
Member
85 posts
Joined Jan 2008
Location: nc
     
Dec 01, 2009 16:40 |  #1

I have read almost every gymnastics post on site and it appears shooting in manual is the prefered method.

I have tried this during practice sessions and can not come close to staying in focus during the fast action of a floor routine or bars.

Is there some secret to this or should I depend on continuous auto focus during these routines?

Is there a prefered metering setting for manual and AF?

thxs

slkfis

ps: I can now add a 70-200mm IS 2.8 to the gear list!


Canon 40D
28-135 KIt --- 70-200mm IS 2.8
As I learn to add, I will!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
gymdad
Member
225 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jan 2007
     
Dec 01, 2009 17:27 |  #2

Hi, slkfis....

I think when people here are talking about "manual" they're talking about manual exposure mode, rather than manual focusing.


http://flickr.com/phot​os/gymcritters/ (external link)
Canon gear

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kgoings
Member
91 posts
Joined Mar 2009
Location: Ahwatukee Arizona
     
Dec 01, 2009 23:19 |  #3

gymdad wrote in post #9116918 (external link)
Hi, slkfis....

I think when people here are talking about "manual" they're talking about manual exposure mode, rather than manual focusing.

Yea what he said. I shoot manual, the manual setting, not manual focus.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tfd888
Goldmember
Avatar
1,816 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Apr 2009
Location: CA, USA
     
Dec 02, 2009 00:44 |  #4

slkfis wrote in post #9116674 (external link)
I have read almost every gymnastics post on site and it appears shooting in manual is the prefered method.

I have tried this during practice sessions and can not come close to staying in focus during the fast action of a floor routine or bars.

Is there some secret to this or should I depend on continuous auto focus during these routines?

Is there a prefered metering setting for manual and AF?

thxs

slkfis

ps: I can now add a 70-200mm IS 2.8 to the gear list!

As the above posts said, in most cases when people refer to shooting in manual they mean the exposure mode not the AF mode.

As for which AF mode to use, I would recommend AI Servo for gymnastics.


Alexander R.O.
1D-Mark III ~1D-Mark II ~ 60D ~ 20D (Gripped)
(70-200mm L 2.8 IS) ~ (17-40mm L 4.0) (Sigma 24-70mm 2.8 EX DG Macro RIP) ~ (50mm 1.8 MKII) ~ (Alpex 35mm f/2.8 M42 mount) ~ (430EX II) ~ (Yongnuo YN-560 III)
My Website (external link) - My Blog (external link)
- My Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
slkfis
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
85 posts
Joined Jan 2008
Location: nc
     
Dec 02, 2009 09:06 as a reply to  @ tfd888's post |  #5

I appreciate all the replies. As I go back and read some of the previous posts they make a lot more sense now.

I will modify my methods.

One more gym question. To set custom WB which is the best, a gray card or a white piece of paper? I would do this in the gym.

thxs very much

slkfis
Bob


Canon 40D
28-135 KIt --- 70-200mm IS 2.8
As I learn to add, I will!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tfd888
Goldmember
Avatar
1,816 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Apr 2009
Location: CA, USA
     
Dec 02, 2009 13:33 as a reply to  @ slkfis's post |  #6

Personally I've never set a custom WB for gymnastics and have it set to auto shooting RAW and if there's an issue with the WB, I'll change it in post.

If you're shooting Jpeg and or want to set a custom WB, I believe 18% gray cards in the light you are going to be shooting in is the way to go but other people may have better experience then I do in this matter.


Alexander R.O.
1D-Mark III ~1D-Mark II ~ 60D ~ 20D (Gripped)
(70-200mm L 2.8 IS) ~ (17-40mm L 4.0) (Sigma 24-70mm 2.8 EX DG Macro RIP) ~ (50mm 1.8 MKII) ~ (Alpex 35mm f/2.8 M42 mount) ~ (430EX II) ~ (Yongnuo YN-560 III)
My Website (external link) - My Blog (external link)
- My Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
IslandCrow
Senior Member
Avatar
589 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Oct 2008
Location: Rapid City, SD
     
Dec 02, 2009 15:17 |  #7

I'll just use a white piece of paper if I'm going to shoot custom WB. Someone once explained to me how it really only matters that there are equal levels of the three primary colors, and the specific shade doesn't matter. It's worked out pretty well for me so far.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
slkfis
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
85 posts
Joined Jan 2008
Location: nc
     
Dec 02, 2009 15:27 |  #8

I appreciate the comments. I had planned on using white paper to set the balance but I'm planning on shooting both ways during warm-ups to see the results. Custom and AWB.

thxs

slkfis
bob


Canon 40D
28-135 KIt --- 70-200mm IS 2.8
As I learn to add, I will!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tracknut
Goldmember
Avatar
1,740 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jun 2005
Location: Folsom, California
     
Dec 02, 2009 16:03 |  #9

IslandCrow wrote in post #9122687 (external link)
I'll just use a white piece of paper if I'm going to shoot custom WB. Someone once explained to me how it really only matters that there are equal levels of the three primary colors, and the specific shade doesn't matter. It's worked out pretty well for me so far.

Absolutely. As long as the CWB image is not blown out white or black, you're good to go. CWB is an "offset" applied to the colors in the image, so it doesn't matter what it is from dark gray to very light gray.

Dave


Performance/sport dog photographer (external link)
Facebook (external link)
"Always available to shoot your dog"

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
IslandCrow
Senior Member
Avatar
589 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Oct 2008
Location: Rapid City, SD
     
Dec 04, 2009 12:20 |  #10

As long as the CWB image is not blown out white or black, you're good to go.

Very good point, and you'll see this if you try to set the white balance in post using the eye dropper on a blown out highlight. The software generally won't let you do it. . .I assume because there's no actual color information in that area.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
beacherz
Senior Member
364 posts
Joined Jan 2009
Location: CT
     
Dec 05, 2009 13:20 as a reply to  @ IslandCrow's post |  #11

Your new 70-200 will make a huge difference. It focuses fast and is nice and sharp. Manual is the mode, Al Servo, spot focus, and try to get your shutter speed high enough to stop the action. My guess would be no less than 350 on floor during leaps and tumbles and higher for giants, dismounts, etc. on bars. If you can get the ss up to 500 with the lighting you have, and keep iso reasonable, that's even better:)


Wayne
Gear List
MaxPreps (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

1,152 views & 0 likes for this thread
Gymnastics in Manual
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Sports Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is dummy12334
889 guests, 283 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.