Oh really? Photography is a essential part of journalism - pick up any paper or magazine. Way back when I was in school it was well known, heck I even went to two week summer seminars at j-school specifically for photojournalism.
Photos and the article are both big parts of journalism, however, by definition journalism is writing and photojournalism is photography - they're separate - though it is strange because many papers are giving writers cameras and sending them out to do both so my guess is more courses would be turned towards both. The writers I know can not take great photos and never took photojournalism classes in college or high school, it was all based on writing. Now if you actually read what I said I asked if anywhere has photojournalism as a class in high school, I'd like to actually know. Around here they do not but think it'd be good in bigger areas, city schools, etc. Again, HIGH SCHOOLS, we're not talking colleges.
Thirty years ago, it was part of the journalism class. But instead of photoshop, we learned actual darkroom work. You know developing and printing images. In schools that do school papers it's still taught as journalism not art.
Um, I started off with film, have developed, didn't switch to digital until a couple years after everyone else did so not sure if you're trying to throw an insult there like I'm one of the digital age newbs, ha. Say it again, thirty years ago was a lot different. What I meant was you're doing set up stuff like art and not much photojournalism when it comes to HIGH SCHOOL photography classes. I'm sure some do, and again - if anyone has a link that'd be cool to check out what a high school class does...but it don't happen around here!
Pick any school with a journalism department. My favorite http://www.journalism.missouri.edu/
(go tigers)
Ummm, that's a college and exactly my point so don't get why you posted it?? I said colleges have it and there's a lot of great college programs out there that cover all aspects.
"No" would have been far more succinct and accurate.
Find me one high school that has a photojournalism class. Not at all trying to be a jerk, I honestly would like to know as it would be a cool class and guessing they have to exist somewhere - not college, high school. High school level most photography classes are not set up that way, never seen one at all but they must exist somewhere!
You randomly brought up football as a class, still don't know why, but yes it's taught in schools. PJ has to be as well but not as a full class, just like football is only part of PE.
There are more interest than just the photography company. You are pretty much exhibit #1 for my
Particularly in high school sports, it's far too easy to forget that the primary function of these events is not profit for photographers.
In the end analysis, these events are not organized for the express purpose of making a profit from images taken - that's just one portion of it.
I know, my two teaching degrees and years of coaching show I'm all about just photography and making a profit from the games!
Sorry to tell you things are a lot different than 30 years ago. These events trickled down some of what pro and college sports do and it was by choice of the state to do that to try and make money and get exposure. If the state came out and said nobody can make a profit from the games end of discussion. As a teacher and coach the first thing is grades, get the grades or you don't play (and yes I've coached at schools that don't do that and had to implement it myself for my own teams). The kids are not affected one bit by the deal the state has with the photography company - the game and what they are for is not affected one single bit - the school not getting a media pass for someone who is not qualified to shoot on the sidelines is not affected either as they have an option to get better photos from the official photography company.
The ones that do, however probably incorporate the photo portion into the general journalism
Probably and do are two different things - still would love to see one from a point of view of what they cover. They have to exist, least I want them to!
I respect those shooting these events (although don't tell ric that). Commercial shooters should recognize that others have a legitimate interest as well - students in particular.
Well, I'm a commercial and a photojournalist at the same time so guess my inner voices of each argue - actually I know they do. But there's no difference for a student shooting from the stands or not at all - not to mention if they have a class of 30 students then who gets to go? All of them? That'd be a cool assignment right there, go shoot the game but without credentials and see who can actually shoot PJ style.
I'm sure that photogliff negotiated the most restrictive agreement they could (it is business after all), without being punitive to the rest of those just trying to do their job.
Hope so, though do believe most should look at the IL deal for a standard.