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Beauty Dish with 2 Speedlights

 
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Dec 02, 2009 18:13 |  #1

So I really want to get a beauty dish because I'm wanting something a little more legit then the DIY gear I am capable of making. The main thing I want to be able to do is use it with two speedlights, beyond that I don't really have too many requirements. I know there's a lot of brackets out there with specific speedrings built onto them but the main problem I'm having is that when 2 of my flashes are back to back they measure about 4.125" diagonally which is larger than most standard speedrings.

I've only been able to find two that are more or less what I'm looking for but tehy're both just a little pricey (I was thinking of spending this much for the bracket and beauty dish combined). Can anyone tell me if they know of any other brackets similar to these? If not does anyone know of any mods to put a second coldshoe on a less expensive bracket made for one? Can you give me some suggestions of good beaty dishes? I really like the Alien Bees beauty dish but the speedring mount is too small to fit 2 speedlights.

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Dec 02, 2009 18:37 |  #2

Anyone?


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Dec 04, 2009 21:35 as a reply to  @ kylefornia's post |  #3

I don't see how either of those brackets will get you a beauty dish result.

I have been thinking of building a ring flash using this O-Shaped bracket as a base:

http://cgi.ebay.com …58831b45d0#ht_7​206wt_1165 (external link)




  
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Dec 04, 2009 21:49 |  #4

dougT wrote in post #9137600 (external link)
I don't see how either of those brackets will get you a beauty dish result.

I have been thinking of building a ring flash using this O-Shaped bracket as a base:

http://cgi.ebay.com …58831b45d0#ht_7​206wt_1165 (external link)

I think he's just showing the bracket where the beauty dish will be attached and not expecting those brackets to be used as a BD.


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Dec 04, 2009 22:14 |  #5

jeromego wrote in post #9137691 (external link)
I think he's just showing the bracket where the beauty dish will be attached and not expecting those brackets to be used as a BD.

Yes, that is just the bracket... Our dish attaches to it as well other modifiers
Here are a few examples from the Photo Expo NY 09 were Photographer Stephen Eastwood (external link) was using the DBL Bracket and Reflector(7D 580ex II x 2) to do stage demonstrations at the Canon Booth.
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Dec 04, 2009 22:21 |  #6

Kyle: you should just get Kacey's bracket and be done w/ it. I noticed you posted in quite a few forums and AFAIK there are very few things that would do what you want unless you want a DIY bracket which might not be as flexible or stable...


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Dec 04, 2009 22:24 |  #7

J Kacey wrote in post #9137879 (external link)
Yes, that is just the bracket... Our dish attaches to it as well other modifiers
Here are a few examples from the Photo Expo NY 09 were Photographer Stephen Eastwood (external link) was using the DBL Bracket and Reflector(7D 580ex II x 2) to do stage demonstrations at the Canon Booth.
1 (external link)
2 (external link)
3 (external link)
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Beautiful images Jerry. It's great to have someone like Stephen Eastwood doing demo's with your bracket. That's really cool!


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Dec 04, 2009 22:58 |  #8

wow nice setup...where can this be bought?


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Dec 04, 2009 23:01 |  #9

J Kacey wrote in post #9137879 (external link)
Yes, that is just the bracket... Our dish attaches to it as well other modifiers
Here are a few examples from the Photo Expo NY 09 were Photographer Stephen Eastwood (external link) was using the DBL Bracket and Reflector(7D 580ex II x 2) to do stage demonstrations at the Canon Booth.
1 (external link)
2 (external link)
3 (external link)
4 (external link)

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Dec 04, 2009 23:12 |  #10

joosay wrote in post #9138132 (external link)
wow nice setup...where can this be bought?

Jerry Kacey of Kacey Enterprises manufactures and sells them. (POST #5)


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Dec 04, 2009 23:23 |  #11

TMR Design wrote in post #9137942 (external link)
Beautiful images Jerry. It's great to have someone like Stephen Eastwood doing demo's with your bracket. That's really cool!

I agree Robert...
What is really cool is he takes the time share a lot of information and helps other photographers... Much like you do:)


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Dec 05, 2009 16:06 |  #12
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dougT wrote in post #9137600 (external link)
I don't see how either of those brackets will get you a beauty dish result.

Huh? They're a bracket that you attach a beauty dish (or any modifier you want) to.

Having the Image Melbourne one, I can assure you it works fine.


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Dec 05, 2009 19:17 |  #13

I like that bracket, but how do the flashes actually fire?


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Dec 06, 2009 01:41 |  #14

kenyee wrote in post #9137925 (external link)
Kyle: you should just get Kacey's bracket and be done w/ it. I noticed you posted in quite a few forums and AFAIK there are very few things that would do what you want unless you want a DIY bracket which might not be as flexible or stable...

I totally agree with you. It's looking like Kacey really is the only company that makes specifically what I'm looking for but then again I wasn't really expecting to come across tons of products for what is probably a very small user group. Most of the people who can afford this setup w/ the beauty dish can easily afford to do the same thing with studio strobes instead of speedlights. The main draw for me to find some kind of setup like this is because I already have several speedlights but can't afford legit studio strobes at this point in my career.

For example, the bracket and beauty dish from Kacey would cost me $340 shipped. For $20 more I could buy an AB800 and the AB High Output beauty dish. Soooo it's just not justifiable to my budget.


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Dec 06, 2009 01:44 |  #15

CliffordPhotography wrote in post #9142126 (external link)
I like that bracket, but how do the flashes actually fire?

Just trigger them via radio remote like PocketWizards or something similar.


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