Pro with a Prosumer Camera?

Dunno about being a professional but I consider myself a Advanced Amateur.

This is the reason I disagree that a Prosumer Camera can't yield Professional results!
Maybe not for the beginner but someone with few years of Photographic experience.
NO it's not a Camera you'd want to use on a daily Professional basis. BUT Professional typa results can be achieved!

The G11....SX20 and cameras of the like can produce what I have done below.

(These are taken with my Sony 828 I had few years back...photos I sold)

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(Foot note)

Sorry don't mean to beat a dead horse but......
Bugs the ---- outta me that anyone would base their skill on a Camera!
Art is in the mind.....the mind is behind the Camera.....not IN the Camera.

A Camera is only a tool.....
A dollar store screw driver will turn a screw just the same as a Craftsman screw driver.

Just say'in
(Flame suit on)

I dont think anyone with any experience would argue that fine images cant be made with the better class of small form digital cameras. The real difference is the ability to control all the elements of your photo and DSLR's both consumer and pro allow you access to options, accessories, and controls not available on lesser models.

Hehehe
I'm sure many of you don't go back to 35mm film days.
They didn't have all this new fangled electronic stuff...even before auto focus.
I knew a guy that took Professional photos with a cheap Pentax K1000 SLR.
He sold em all over......Greeting Cards......Mags...I rememberd seeing his work published.
I had a Canon A1 SLR at the time 2nd best Canon then and didn't come close!
This Guy took pics that were just amazing.....He even told me back then....
That the ability is behind the camera not in it.

As a relative newcomer to this forum I don't mind beating dead horses with others that have not done so ... And we even might come up with ideas or ways to look at it others already have forgotten

My wife has a PowerShot S50 which is getting a bit long in the tooth (five years old or so and been all over the world)and it takes very nice pictures. Sometimes we shoot the same thing and compare later. And then it shows....
Turning a screw with a simple screwdriver is one thing. But a camera is more than a screw driver... more like a lath or mitre saw.... The "craftsman" will certainly get better results with a high precision quality machine then with a cheap "made in China" Wallmart/Kmart sort of piece of gear.

Graphyfotoz wrote in post #9197025
Hehehe
I'm sure many of you don't go back to 35mm film days.
They didn't have all this new fangled electronic stuff...even before auto focus.
I knew a guy that took Professional photos with a cheap Pentax K1000 SLR.
He sold em all over......Greeting Cards......Mags...I rememberd seeing his work published.
I had a Canon A1 SLR at the time 2nd best Canon then and didn't come close!
This Guy took pics that were just amazing.....He even told me back then....
That the ability is behind the camera not in it.

When I was in grad school I was a grad assistant in the photo dept. One of the things we did the first week was do a walkaround with the new students along with their gear. The instructor and I would use the plastic giveaway cameras while they were using their often top shelf gear. It never failed that our stuff compared favorably with their efforts. It was a good way to dispel the "gear superiority syndrome" that many of them were afflicted with.

gonzogolf wrote in post #9196930
I dont think anyone with any experience would argue that fine images cant be made with the better class of small form digital cameras. The real difference is the ability to control all the elements of your photo and DSLR's both consumer and pro allow you access to options, accessories, and controls not available on lesser models.

....and learning post processing correctly

tmwag wrote in post #9197100
....and learning post processing correctly

True, but there is also a limit there. I am often bugged by the mind set of shoot it however, and fix it in post.

gonzogolf wrote in post #9197085
The instructor and I would use the plastic giveaway cameras while they were using their often top shelf gear. It never failed that our stuff compared favorably with their efforts. It was a good way to dispel the "gear superiority syndrome" that many of them were afflicted with.

BINGO give the man a Cigar!!

Graphyfotoz wrote in post #9197025
Hehehe
I'm sure many of you don't go back to 35mm film days.

I started with a cheap SLR (cannot even remember the brand name - something East German and immensely popular in NW Europe at the time) and did my own film developing and printing. All B/W of course - I am talking 1965 and thereabouts......
No auto focus, only a built in - not very accurate - spot light meter.
But... lots of fun and basically more exiting than with the gear I have now.
What is lacking is the expectations about the shot and the patience one had to have before being able to see the result - which in a way influences the care with which the shot is taken..

But... I would not like to go back to those days.

tmwag wrote in post #9197100
....and learning post processing correctly

Thats one great advancement!
You can edit your own shots however you want.
Back then....you shot it....you got it.

Not to mention all the wasted $$$ on film and processing.
Now days ya goof or take a bad shot.....delete and start over.

I've used dollar store screw drivers, you can get hurt with some of them. I'll take a Craftsman or Snap On screwdriver any day of the week.

Graphyfotoz wrote in post #9197168
Thats one great advancement!
You can edit your own shots however you want.
Back then....you shot it....you got it.

Oh...no! There was a lot that you could do... First at developing the film you could - within margin - correct exposure.
And then while printing.... waving with feathers and pieces of paper or totally blocking the sky part for a few seconds to get more structure. And developing the print you could watch and stop at just the right moment. Another and more messy (brown fingers) way of PP but PP it was.

One of the most influential and impressive photographers for me that ever graced the pages of this forum shot with Canon G series exclusively. ( Don Ellis http://www.kleptograph​y.com/ )

...also, this forum began it's life following the exploits of Pekka Saarinen's own G1 photo gallery;
https://photography-on-the.net/gallery/list.p​hp?exhibition=2

These are just two of many "local" examples,. clearly there have been thousands of professional photographers that used equipment no different than the average joe since photography began.
Given the reality of who uses or used what equipment to make a living, the question hardly need be asked.

I hear ya vk2gwk!

I don't go back that far(I was born in 1965)
I started with SLR in 1986.
I remember those needle meters.

I had a Olympus OM1.....Minolta XG9.....Minolta X700 and my Fav Canon A1

Sniffle......I kinda miss that old beast!