Pro with a Prosumer Camera?

In order to disagree with someone who said you can't get pro results with a prosumer camera, doesn't someone have to assert that you can't? Did I miss that part?

Your images are very good, btw.

Graphyfotoz wrote in post #9197214
I hear ya vk2gwk!
my Fav Canon A1

Sniffle......I kinda miss that old beast!

Still got mine, alongside the F-1N that replaced it, and a few AE-1's that came to live with me over the years. I have the most expensive paperweight collection in town

gonzogolf wrote in post #9197236
I have the most expensive paperweight collection in town

It a real shame isn't it!
Oh well thats progress and technology.
Someday what we are using now will be as ancient! LOL

Dude I remember going ape ---- over a 340MB hard Drive on sale in the day.
Now you can get a lil card for your cell phone the size of your pinky nail that holds 8GB!!

gonzogolf wrote in post #9197114
I am often bugged by the mind set of shoot it however, and fix it in post.

Yep, good composition, exposure, etc is the first step, but good images can be completely butchered by bad post processing..I know from experience

I think the OP's reasoning is sound, however, i'm sure even the OP himself would acknowledge that most P&S's would capture very similar results as the ones shown above, given the conditions and framing were consistent.

'Prosumer' and 'professional' equipment is designed for more challenging conditions, and as such handle more contrast, and in larger prints, often the difference is obvious. (610x800 pixels may be enough for the web, but at 300 DPI, only makes an image 2 x 2.6".
The usual 'Tool' analogy:
A cheap blunt chisel may still be able to get the job done, but it will probably take even a skilled craftsman longer and the quality of the finished product may be lower (or require more attempts) than that of a sharper, harder, quality tool.

Its easy to say 'it comes down to the skill/art of the user'. But give the skilled user a disposable film camera, and then a point and shoot and then a DSLR and under moderately challenging conditions the differences will soon become obvious. Even using 'creative/artistic framing' with all the cameras, and don't get me started on crafting light...

Here ya go.....
No meters.....no LCD.....No Batts....No flash
The Prosumer camera of it's time.
IIRC I dated this to around 1917....did they even have electricity then?

What you're missing is that "getting pro results" for selected shots just isn't going to cut it if you're dependent on your camera not letting you down. Pro photographers have to bring in consistent results every time, or they find some other line of work. Part of what makes a camera "pro" is that the photographer can depend on it working. My F-1 was that; my 1D3 is that. Much as I like it for a small, convenient camera, my A630 isn't. Nor is my SX1. I can, and do, take very good photos with it, but if I need to be out in bad weather, low light, or where the action is fast and furious, I'm going to reach for something else that can deliver in those conditions.

^^^ for me, it's shooting indoors without flash in higher ISO - so those P&S with tiny sensors don't quite cut the mustard...

I'm confused. What characteristics differentiate a pro camera from a prosumer camera? Are these "real" designations, or merely terms created by marketing departments?

NavyShrink wrote in post #14184756
I'm confused. What characteristics differentiate a pro camera from a prosumer camera? Are these "real" designations, or merely terms created by marketing departments?

this thread is 3 years old...

and now fully risen from the dead...

Bad Habit wrote in post #14184764
and now fully risen from the dead...

he's going around bringing up a bunch of old threads

yes it's a "Bad Habit" of mine

(sorry, couldn't resist. At least I'm not trying to entice the Title Fairy)

Fricks wrote in post #14184767
he's going around bringing up a bunch of old threads

Good detective work. Yes, actually, I've come across this "prosumer" term, which I'm confused about, so I did a forum search to see if anyone's provided a good definition anywhere.

I'm wondering if there are actually any criteria that would place a camera into a "prosumer" versus "pro" category. The best I can tell, it appears to have more to do with camera build than actual functioning. Is that correct?

Threadsurrection!

You're welcome, everyone