Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
Thread started 15 Dec 2009 (Tuesday) 04:10
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Square sensor?

 
gjl711
Wait.. you can't unkill your own kill.
Avatar
57,730 posts
Likes: 4065
Joined Aug 2006
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
     
Dec 17, 2009 14:51 |  #31

DStanic wrote in post #9206051 (external link)
Check HERE. (external link) :)

What an interesting concept.


Not sure why, but call me JJ.
I used to hate math but then I realised decimals have a point.
.
::Flickr:: (external link)
::Gear::

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
20droger
Cream of the Crop
14,685 posts
Likes: 27
Joined Dec 2006
     
Dec 17, 2009 14:56 |  #32

tkbslc wrote in post #9217433 (external link)
More realistically, there are many lenses that only project a rectangle (okay, more of a rough ellipse) onto the 2:3 sensor. So it would not be able to fill an oversized square sensor.

For example, look at the rear mount of this 24-105L - its a rectangle
https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=9212262&p​ostcount=2

Yes, but that is just a mask, easily removed if the sensor were round. I know of no SLR lenses whose unmasked optical projection is not round. In fact, that's why it is called an "image circle." To be not round would require lens elements that are cylindrical in nature, like a Cinemascope lens.

The mask is put on the 24-105L, and other lenses, to inhibit extraneous reflected light from re-entering the lens. This helps to reduce flare and ghosting.

An interesting though just popped into my head. A lens with a cylindrical element could be made that would compress the image in one plane. The image could then be expanded back to normal with appropriate software. This would allow a standard DSLR to take a panoramic shot in a single click.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jjswee
Mostly Lurking
19 posts
Joined Dec 2007
Location: California
     
Dec 17, 2009 14:56 |  #33

18 inch wafers? Damn.

I don't know what yield current manufacturing is getting. They are pretty good at doing what they do. But that large of a sensor would be pretty crazy.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Martin ­ Dixon
Slit-scan project master
Avatar
1,867 posts
Gallery: 59 photos
Likes: 276
Joined Sep 2009
Location: Ealing
     
Dec 17, 2009 15:16 |  #34

Having advocated circular sensor the fancy petal hoods would have to go or be like those lighting rigs with movable flaps.

Perhaps the sensors could end up semi spherical and be deposited on the final element in a new range of lenses. Would photoshop cope!


flickr (external link) Editing OK (external link) www.slitcam.com (free slit-scan utility) (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tkbslc
Cream of the Crop
24,604 posts
Likes: 45
Joined Nov 2008
Location: Utah, USA
     
Dec 17, 2009 15:18 |  #35

20droger wrote in post #9217510 (external link)
Yes, but that is just a mask, easily removed if the sensor were round. I know of no SLR lenses whose unmasked optical projection is not round. In fact, that's why it is called an "image circle." To be not round would require lens elements that are cylindrical in nature, like a Cinemascope lens.

The mask is put on the 24-105L, and other lenses, to inhibit extraneous reflected light from re-entering the lens. This helps to reduce flare and ghosting.

I figured the optics had to at least be round, but still I can't see Canon sending out instructions for removing lens baffles so they can use the fancy new sensor.

They would also have to start selling alternat lens hoods for each lens. Wait, I can easily see them doing THAT. :)


Taylor
Galleries: Flickr (external link)
EOS Rp | iPhone 11 Pro Max

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
20droger
Cream of the Crop
14,685 posts
Likes: 27
Joined Dec 2006
     
Dec 17, 2009 15:30 |  #36

tkbslc wrote in post #9217673 (external link)
I figured the optics had to at least be round, but still I can't see Canon sending out instructions for removing lens baffles so they can use the fancy new sensor.

They would also have to start selling alternat lens hoods for each lens. Wait, I can easily see them doing THAT. :)

And I can easily see them charging only $150 to remove baffles at the service centers (removing it yourself voids your warranty).




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Lowner
"I'm the original idiot"
Avatar
12,924 posts
Likes: 18
Joined Jul 2007
Location: Salisbury, UK.
     
Dec 17, 2009 15:44 |  #37

Long before we actually get these sensors, the lenses are going to need redesigning to cope with the higher resolution they are going to have to deliver. Canon won't need to charge us for modifying existing lenses because they will be making a fortune selling us new ones. Ah well, it's only money!


Richard

http://rcb4344.zenfoli​o.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

5,524 views & 0 likes for this thread, 21 members have posted to it.
Square sensor?
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is slipper1963
1470 guests, 172 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.