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Dec 16, 2009 19:57 |  #1

I haven't printed anything out before and I was wondering if there anything I need to know.

I'm looking to print in Adoramapix.com and all I see is that the format needs to be in sRBG which the pictures already are.

I shoot with a 5D and 5D II so I'm not sure if the output is 9x12 which is what I have chosen to have my printed pictures in - if I send them out to be that size am I going to received some pictures badly crop or do I need to make the crop to my liking before I send them out?

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Dec 16, 2009 20:01 |  #2

If you meant 8x12, you're alright. 9x12 will involve a noticeable crop.


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Dec 16, 2009 20:05 |  #3

So if I was to do the pictures all 8x12 I wouldnt have to do any crop whatsoever?

but at 9x12 I will have to crop .. thanks ..

Anything else I need to know before I send these files to print?

Also, would 9x12 be the output for a 1D or a Rebel?




  
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Dec 16, 2009 20:08 |  #4

forgot to add another question .. what's the standard for fashion photography?




  
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Dec 16, 2009 20:10 as a reply to  @ Player9's post |  #5

You should always try to crop your photo's to the specific size you need before printing them, or you can use a "Safe Crop" size (To cover all photo sizes) that would allow a little to be cropped off the top and sides by the print service if necessary without cutting off your subject in the photo ( I do this with sports photo's @ 1600 x 2166 ) . If you need help with cropping just tell us what software your using and we would be happy to help you out if we can.;)



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Dec 16, 2009 20:14 |  #6

I'm using LR and I have CS4

I really want to know what's the standard .. I have a few MUA/Models/Hair Stylist asking for pictures from 8x10 to 11x14 and I don't feel like I have a clear picture of what's the standard .. I also know that some pictures have wiggle room to be crop at 9x12 but some are already to tight to be crop anymore .. so 8X12 might be my best bet but that doesnt seem to work for some people!




  
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Dec 16, 2009 20:23 |  #7

RiKaN HaVoK wrote in post #9212556 (external link)
I'm using LR and I have CS4

I really want to know what's the standard .. I have a few MUA/Models/Hair Stylist asking for pictures from 8x10 to 11x14 and I don't feel like I have a clear picture of what's the standard .. I also know that some pictures have wiggle room to be crop at 9x12 but some are already to tight to be crop anymore .. so 8X12 might be my best bet but that doesnt seem to work for some people!

I have no Idea what the "Standard" is. If clients are asking for a specific size then I would just crop to those sizes. If they want a digital copy for themselves to be printed from 5x7 up to 11x14 then I would suggest a "Safe crop" to cover those sizes...that's what I do anyway.



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Dec 16, 2009 20:29 |  #8

Can you school me on the safe crop?

So what you are telling me is that if I frame a beauty shoot tight and it's perfect at 8x12 I will have to crop it to probably a ruin shot at 9x12 and there's no way around that? I mean I guess if they want it at that size - I was just hoping that I didnt have to do many of those ...




  
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Dec 16, 2009 20:40 as a reply to  @ RiKaN HaVoK's post |  #9

When I use a "Safe crop" on my photos, I am uploading several to my site for purchase at 1600px X 2166px. I kind of explained it HEREin another post.



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Dec 16, 2009 20:52 |  #10

RiKaN HaVoK wrote in post #9212653 (external link)
Can you school me on the safe crop?

So what you are telling me is that if I frame a beauty shoot tight and it's perfect at 8x12 I will have to crop it to probably a ruin shot at 9x12 and there's no way around that? I mean I guess if they want it at that size - I was just hoping that I didnt have to do many of those ...


If you like the way a photo looks at 8x10 crop and you have to have that photo now at 9x12 then the best your going to get without affecting proportions is a 9 x 11.25 crop or a 9.6 x 12 crop. If it looks perfect at 8 x 12 and you have to have a 9 x 12 then the closest your going to get is 9 x 13.5 to keep that perfect frame you like. All those will be custom print sizes however, so I think With the kind of work your doing it sounds to me like you need to just crop the photo from the original to the size you need per the customers request. An 8x12 crop is going to look different than a 9x12 but that's just the way it is. If you go trying to resize without constraining proportions then your gonna stretch the photo one way or the other, and then it's gonna look really weird. Like I said, I do sports photos and I have room to play...so I can use a "Safe Crop" and maybe (rarely) a foot or finger gets cropped away in the photo when the customer orders a specific size, but it's no biggy with what I do. I hope I helped a little but that's about all I know on the subject. I'm sure there are folks on here much more knowledgeable on the subject that could chime in.



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Dec 17, 2009 10:02 as a reply to  @ 10megapixel's post |  #11

The term to google is "Aspect ratio" ;)




  
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Dec 17, 2009 10:54 |  #12

If you like the way a photo looks at 8x10 crop and you have to have that photo now at 9x12 then the best your going to get without affecting proportions...

Is to print it smaller on 8X10 paper & use a mat to mask off the white borders. Crop the shot as it should be cropped to make the subject look it's best, & then use a mat to cover the "excess" space.

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Dec 17, 2009 12:08 |  #13

PhotosGuy wrote in post #9215924 (external link)
Is to print it smaller on 8X10 paper & use a mat to mask off the white borders. Crop the shot as it should be cropped to make the subject look it's best, & then use a mat to cover the "excess" space.

Understanding Aspect Ratios and The Art of Cropping (external link)


Good idea for matting and framing, but I think the OP is saying he might need to hand over a print that's actually 9 in. x 12 in. when printed. That's the way I took it anyway.



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Dec 17, 2009 21:41 |  #14

You are correct .. I understand that the FF camera is going to output 8x12 print - however the clients wants 9x12 so I was trying to figure out if there was a way I can print without having to crop the picture itself .. but there's no way - so now I just have to go to LR and crop accordingly without taking a major limb or anything ..

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RiKaN HaVoK wrote in post #9219691 (external link)
You are correct .. I understand that the FF camera is going to output 8x12 print - however the clients wants 9x12 so I was trying to figure out if there was a way I can print without having to crop the picture itself .. but there's no way - so now I just have to go to LR and crop accordingly without taking a major limb or anything ..

thanks for the info guys ..

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