Canon 16-35 Mk2 and graduated filters?

I'm thinking of getting a graduated ND filter for my Canon 16-35 and am wondering if anyone has any experience with this they would like to share. Specifically, have you had more luck with the screw on type or the kind you hold in front of the lens?

I prefer the slip in type as you can fine tune the placement of the graduation by moving the filter in the holder.

Thanks. I was reading somewhere that Art Wolfe just hand holds his ND and I wasn't sure what that meant until I saw the slip in type. Any suggestions as to brand, etc? I'm thinking this one:
Schneider 4x4" Graduated Neutral Density (ND) 0.6 Water-White Glass Filter - Soft Edge
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ated_Neutral_De​nsity.html

SunTsu wrote in post #9233234
Thanks. I was reading somewhere that Art Wolfe just hand holds his ND and I wasn't sure what that meant until I saw the slip in type. Any suggestions as to brand, etc? I'm thinking this one:
Schneider 4x4" Graduated Neutral Density (ND) 0.6 Water-White Glass Filter - Soft Edge
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ated_Neutral_De​nsity.html

You'd want a rectangular filter. A 4x4 filter doesn't give you a lot of leeway when used with a lens that requires 82 mm filter size. I'd suggest a 4x6 inch filter.

Also, I'd suggest a 0.9 filter first (3 stops). I find I almost never use the 0.3 or 0.6 filters, as the effect isn't large enough in most cases, for me anyway. A 0.3 ND is 1 stop difference, 0.6 2 stops, 0.9 3 stops, 1.2 4 stops, etc.

Kind regards, Wim.

wimg wrote in post #9233256
Also, I'd suggest a 0.9 filter first (3 stops). I find I almost never use the 0.3 or 0.6 filters, as the effect isn't large enough in most cases, for me anyway.

Perhaps not by themselves, but you can stack them.

rvdw98 wrote in post #9233304
Perhaps not by themselves, but you can stack them.

But then you have multiple layers and maybe IQ loss?

SunTsu wrote in post #9233202
I'm thinking of getting a graduated ND filter for my Canon 16-35 and am wondering if anyone has any experience with this they would like to share. Specifically, have you had more luck with the screw on type or the kind you hold in front of the lens?

The resin GND filters are the standard. Here is one decent deal on Hitech filters: filter holder, lens ring (sized for your lens, in this case 82mm?) and 1 filter of your choice for $57. Additional filters $57. they come in hard edge or soft (see pic).

http://www.2filter.com​/prices/htpackages.htm​l

I would suggest starting with a 2 stop soft and 3 stop hard and get more only as you become familiar with them. You can hand hold them too, but you will absolutely need a tripod otherwise you run out of hands. in some cases you may have to remove the lens hood to hand hold them.
One tip is to adjust the placement of the filter, use your depth of field preview button to stop down, then move the filter. Its much easier to see where the filter placement is with the lens stopped down.
Mike K

JelleVerherstraeten wrote in post #9233316
But then you have multiple layers and maybe IQ loss?

In theory, yes. In practice, I doubt if you can tell from the results if stacked filters have been used. Stacking is pretty common practice and the very reason behind the design of filter holders such as the Lee and Cokin holders.

rvdw98 wrote in post #9233304
Perhaps not by themselves, but you can stack them.

Yes, I know. Even then it is not a lot.

Kind regards, Wim

I use the Lee holder and Hitech filters on my 16-35. Make sure you get the wide-angle adaptor for the Lee holder though. In a pinch I have handheld the filters in front of the lens but it's not recommended.

wimg wrote in post #9234119
Yes, I know. Even then it is not a lot.

What do you shoot, nuclear blasts?

rvdw98 wrote in post #9234221
What do you shoot, nuclear blasts?

No, my lenses are lead-free .

Most shots I end up taking with all three ND grads stacked, somehow, and even then I feel I stil don't have enough.

Kind regards, Wim

SunTsu wrote in post #9233202
I'm thinking of getting a graduated ND filter for my Canon 16-35 and am wondering if anyone has any experience with this they would like to share. Specifically, have you had more luck with the screw on type or the kind you hold in front of the lens?

Use the kind that is held in a slotted holder in front of the lens. I use Lee brand filters and have 3 kinds: .3, .6, and .9.

That kind of covers me for any situation.

Go here, start at page 1 - probably all the info that you will need.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=224448

wimg wrote in post #9234242
Most shots I end up taking with all three ND grads stacked, somehow, and even then I feel I stil don't have enough.

So what do you shoot that requires more than 6 stops worth of GNDs?