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Dec 20, 2009 18:09 |  #1

Foggy, wet day today and this is a notion, an idea for further efforts. What say ye? The first one is full color, the second is selectively desaturated.


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Dec 20, 2009 19:33 |  #2

If the idea is "cars going behind trees", then I don't find it interesting on the face of it. I mean, I suppose you could get a nice "car going behind a tree" shot. Somehow. But I think the audience would be limited. So, as a notion for further efforts, well, let's just say "I wouldn't".

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Dec 20, 2009 20:01 |  #3

If the idea is "selective desaturation" you'll have to find another subject because the current one is not very good. Selective desaturation is an excellent technique to focus the attention. So... find something that is worth that attention... :)


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Dec 20, 2009 20:17 |  #4

You're both missing the point. This is about a foggy day and the looking at the road.....




  
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Dec 20, 2009 20:20 |  #5

I don't find this interested, and it seems like a snapshot.

But job of trying to creative.


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Dec 20, 2009 20:28 |  #6

PBeeee wrote in post #9235525 (external link)
You're both missing the point. This is about a foggy day and the looking at the road.....

If you are kidding, I appreciate the joke. If you are serious then your photo is totally "missing the point". Sorry.


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Dec 20, 2009 20:32 |  #7

My suggestion is if you want to practice selectivel desaturation, find a more interesting subject.


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Dec 21, 2009 03:02 |  #8

Sry... But the foggy day and road is not interesting at all, at least from that angle.


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Dec 21, 2009 06:25 |  #9

I agree, doesn't work very well.. My very first attempt at doing this type of picture is attached.


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Dec 21, 2009 11:13 |  #10

Still not getting it. And I'm not joking. I was trying to get a critique and discussion of the process here, not the product per se. The first picture is the germ of an idea. A sort of vignette that went by and peaked my interest. It is not successful. The second is an attempt to nurture that germ, the desaturation helped me to focus my interest, gain a toehold in the idea. I am not interested in desaturation specifically but rather how its use helped me to narrow an idea down. It, again, as a shot is not particularly successful. But the idea is progressing for me. I was hoping someone might understand that and offer ideas in that vein, progressing the idea, however they saw it. The subject matter and technique are not paramount to this idea, which at this point I am still trying to fully articulate to myself. And I certainly was not clear about that. While I originally thought the fog and road were what interested me, it is developing that the wet blur at the rear of the car is more interesting. This leads to a thought about changing the vantage point to a spot where I can safely be at eye level with the road bed. Who knows where that might lead.

There was a posting recently where they were trying to nail down and improve a shot taken in an attic. What an interesting thing to watch that develop! This forum is capable of that so forgive me for expecting more with these. This is going to remain on the board in my studio, I wouldn't be much of an artist if I gave up so quickly on the first rendition of a notion, that 'germ of an idea'. I so often find myself telling someone to 'try again' and it is in that spirit that this was offered. If I have a failing, I think its not beating you over the head with what I thought was obvious. Clearly, it was not.




  
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Dec 21, 2009 11:19 as a reply to  @ PBeeee's post |  #11

SOrry, comparing this one to the attic one isn't a fair comparison. The attic one had mood, nostalgia, lighting,and room to give more perspective and ideas.That is, it began with an idea, and grew.
THis one you posted for me anyway, doesn't peak my interest in anything, doesn't make me want to "try" an edit, because I truly don't see what the edit would prove nor disprove.I am sorry, but I see not "growth" forward on this one?

The colors are a moot point, the subject is not there?


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Dec 21, 2009 14:45 |  #12

I think I now understand where you are coming from, PBeee. And, yes, the attic discussion was interesting and inspiring. But - like Flo already said - the "germ" got to have the potential and that was the problem with your starting picture: it did nothing for any of us. Hence the suggestion to find something with more potential.

Felix gave that a try with his yellow car in the B/W picture. For me there are too many distractions in the picture to keep concentrating on the yellow car. May be a crop...???


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Dec 21, 2009 16:00 |  #13

vk2gwk wrote in post #9240010 (external link)
Felix gave that a try with his yellow car in the B/W picture. For me there are too many distractions in the picture to keep concentrating on the yellow car. May be a crop...???

This was my attempt after having the camer for approx 2 weeks.. I have not had a chance to reshoot as I know I would make it a better image when I do as this forum has helped with that so much! :)


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Dec 21, 2009 16:15 |  #14

If you ever have the misfortune to have your pictures savaged by a uk camera club judge, he'll always talk about the importance of a bit of red. Why not try selectively colouring the vehicle and see if that is more satisfying.


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