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Remote Camera at the Soccer match

 
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Dec 20, 2009 18:33 |  #1

I shot a high school soccer match Saturday, and for the first time, I set up a remote camera behind the goal.

I used a Canon 40D with a Canon 17-40 f/4 lens set at 17mm and f/7.1. The camera was set at ISO 400, AV mode with manual focus and high speed (6.5 FPS).

Mount: I made my mount out of a cutting board (hope the wifey doesn't find out!

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) I drilled a hole at each corner so a tent stake would fit through it. On the bottom side, I mounted 4 grippers I found at Lowes. The hole for the tent stake also goes through the gripper. The grippers should come in handy if I set up this mount in the gym under the basket.

I drilled a 3/8" hole through the center of the board so a 3/8" x 3/4 inch bolt would fit through it. It is just the right size so the ball head fits snugly when bolted to it.

Setting up the mount was easy because the ground was still wet so I just pushed the stakes into the ground. I did bring a nylon tent stake mallet that I had just in case I needed some OOMPH!

I took a few test shots of the guys warming up, then taped the focus ring with gaffers tape so it wouldn't move.

For the remote, I used a Phottix Cleon wireless remote. I have used it before but not in this application.

Summary. The test was successful. I got quiet a few wide angle pics but I might have been able to adjust the view a little to make the pics better.
Everything was in focus. According to the Depth of Field Calculator I used, everything from about 4 feet to infinity should have been in focus when focus at 20 feet. I think I was focused closer but not sure because I didn't get a chance to measure the distance from camera lens to the subject.

The remote worked great when I was close to the camera, but when I was down the sideline, it didn't trigger the camera. I didn't find this out until I got home and uploaded the pics to the computer. That means I missed several shots on goal and at least three goals. One team scored 4 of their 9 goals on the end where the camera was mounted.

It was a good experiment. Next time I will hook up my Skyports. I have a way to use them to trigger the camera and shouldn't have any trouble from 200 feet (or more).

Here is my setup and a couple of sample pictures.

This could also be used to shoot birds at the feeder or other situations where you would scare the critters if you were standing there.

Hope you find this info helpful.
Mike

1) Remote setup behind the goal net. Note: Football goal post was to camera left, thus the shadows! :-(
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2) Side view.
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3) Rear view.
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4) Sample Pic - uncropped
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5) Sample Pic #2 - uncropped
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Dec 20, 2009 18:54 |  #2

Hello Mike

Thanks for sharing the info on your set-up. It's too bad that you didn't get any in game goal shots. Keep on posting.

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Dec 20, 2009 19:00 |  #3

If you don't mind me asking, why did you use a remote? Is there a rule against sitting behind the goal and taking pictures?


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Dec 20, 2009 19:04 as a reply to  @ MikeFairbanks's post |  #4

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Dec 20, 2009 19:09 |  #5

Yeah, I was walking the sideline and across the back shooting with my main camera and with the remote transmitter in hand. I just realized the second example pic was triggered when I was standing at the corner of the field where the player kicked the ball in (it's in the corner of the picture).

I just needed more reach for the remote transmitter. I've used my Skyports from a distance of close to 200 feet to trigger the camera remotely so I will use them next time.

Boy, I tell ya, it's tough on an old man with bad knees to get that low to the ground and aim the camera and get the focus right! :-)
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Dec 20, 2009 19:10 |  #6

Looks good. How do you trigger the camera with Skyports? I remember reading about it once before.


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Dec 20, 2009 19:12 |  #7

MikeFairbanks wrote in post #9235185 (external link)
If you don't mind me asking, why did you use a remote? Is there a rule against sitting behind the goal and taking pictures?

Its more about being in two places at once.


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Dec 20, 2009 19:24 |  #8

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Its more about being in two places at once.

exactly - can't remember which video I just saw (NBA photog) talking about how he had 4 remotes set up...all about coverage


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Dec 20, 2009 19:32 |  #9

Dan-O not sure but I think I posted a thread a year or so ago about firing the camera remotely.
My set up uses a wired remote you can get off ebay that has a sync jack in the side. A Radio Shack adapter allows the cable from the Skyport receiver plug into the remote. With this setup, the remote camera will fire every time you take a picture with the main camera. Or, hold the transmitter in your hand and press the test button whenever you want the remote to fire.

Here are some links to the pics I took of the set up.
http://i226.photobucke​t.com …d265/mt_stringe​r/RC01.jpg (external link)
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http://i226.photobucke​t.com …d265/mt_stringe​r/RC04.jpg (external link)

Example of remote set up down past the first base bag and prefocused on first base area to get pick offs. I was at third base area. Unfortunately, someone bumped the camera which knocked the aim off a little.
http://i226.photobucke​t.com …d265/mt_stringe​r/RC16.jpg (external link)


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Dec 20, 2009 19:50 |  #10

Nice set-up Mike! I really need to get some remotes going. Hopefully I'll get one set up for basketball here soon.

Here's what I use to trigger my camera remotely with my Cybersyncs.

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Dec 20, 2009 20:20 |  #11

Thanks Derek. I don't think that cable will work with the Skyports. Seems to me I had a conversation with Lon and he said it wouldn't work. That's when I started looking and found someone on another forum that had used the setup I have and it works with the Skyports.


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Dec 20, 2009 20:30 |  #12

Wow! Great idea and execution. I never thought of being in two places at once. You've got me rethinking a lot of things that I shoot. Great job!


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Thanks Derek. I don't think that cable will work with the Skyports. Seems to me I had a conversation with Lon and he said it wouldn't work. That's when I started looking and found someone on another forum that had used the setup I have and it works with the Skyports.


The cable did work for me when I had Skyports, but I heard that others had some problems.


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Dec 20, 2009 21:15 |  #14

Put the camera IN the goal. I do....


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Dec 20, 2009 21:22 |  #15

Put the camera IN the goal. I do....

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