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Dec 24, 2009 11:00 |  #1

I have an image that was cropped at 3792 x 2592. I'd like to order prints, but I was wondering what size to order without distorting the image in any way. Thanks in advance.


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Dec 24, 2009 11:44 |  #2

better question would be how big are you looking to go with your prints?


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Dec 24, 2009 12:20 |  #3

11x14 is a straight forward print with no screwing around beyond size appropriate sharpening.

I'd be comfortable with that resolution up to a 20x30 with some processing. I'd up-rez. the file to 240ppi @ 20x30 and then sharpen appropriately. I've made a few 20x30 prints from 10 MP files (what you have) and there is no lack of resolution.


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Dec 24, 2009 12:28 |  #4

Are you asking about size ratio? You have a 1:1.46 size ratio, which the closest semi-standard print size I can think of would be 13x19. It should be easy to crop to any of the multiples of 4x6 or 5x7, though.

If you are just talking the max size, period, I would set 100dpi as a bottom limit, so that is somewhere around 38x26


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Dec 24, 2009 13:48 |  #5

Ok, this is my first print so if someone can link me to a tutorial that explains cropping / resizing for prints that would be great. I'd like to get as big a print as possible without losing quality, so what would you guys recommend from a 10.1 MP shot from a Rebel XS at the resolution I specified?


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Dec 24, 2009 14:01 |  #6

300 pixels per inch is kind of the default standard for printing, and I've had good results down to 200 ppi. At 200 ppi you'd end up at 19x13. 300 ppi would get you somewhere around 8x12, 9x13. Here's a link to the printing faq's page




  
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Dec 24, 2009 14:17 |  #7

Mike787 wrote in post #9257989 (external link)
Ok, this is my first print so if someone can link me to a tutorial that explains cropping / resizing for prints that would be great. I'd like to get as big a print as possible without losing quality, so what would you guys recommend from a 10.1 MP shot from a Rebel XS at the resolution I specified?

You could get an excellent 12x18 or 13x19 and a good 20x30. 300DPI is ideal, but also less critical for large prints. You won't be looking at a 20" print from 1 foot away like you would a 4x6.


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Dec 24, 2009 14:42 |  #8

tkbslc wrote in post #9258108 (external link)
You could get an excellent 12x18 or 13x19 and a good 20x30. 300DPI is ideal, but also less critical for large prints. You won't be looking at a 20" print from 1 foot away like you would a 4x6.

This is exactly what I wanted to add :)


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Dec 24, 2009 16:23 |  #9

I have made 12x18 prints at 300 ppi with an xt and they look fine.




  
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Dec 24, 2009 16:47 |  #10

cccc wrote in post #9258603 (external link)
I have made 12x18 prints at 300 ppi with an xt and they look fine.

Hell, I've made XT 20x30's at 200 dpi on a Durst Lambda that would blow your socks off.
With 3792x2540 you can have beautiful 24x36's.


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Dec 24, 2009 19:28 |  #11

Ok because i've been directed to this link http://www.design215.c​om/toolbox/megapixels.​php (external link) which says otherwise for 10mp. Is this wrong?


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Dec 24, 2009 23:38 |  #12

Mike787 wrote in post #9259293 (external link)
Ok because i've been directed to this link http://www.design215.c​om/toolbox/megapixels.​php (external link) which says otherwise for 10mp. Is this wrong?

That a 300DPI chart.


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Dec 24, 2009 23:44 |  #13

Mike787 wrote in post #9257989 (external link)
Ok, this is my first print so if someone can link me to a tutorial that explains cropping / resizing for prints that would be great.

There's no need for a tutorial. Just take a look at the print sizes available at the lab you're going to get your print at. Usually the ratios are 4:5 or 3:2 or 4:3 and others like 5x7 or 11x14. Either you crop to that aspect ratio or you make a nonstandard print with borders. Printing to a standard size is simple and straightforward. If you want a nonstandard ratio, you'll need to change the size of the canvas, which is a little less simple.

As for size: print as large as you want. 300-350PPI is ideal for small prints. For larger prints, it's no longer relevant since viewing distance takes effect.




  
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Dec 25, 2009 00:17 |  #14

The Canon 40D shooting large JPG, will give you a print 54"x36". I've printed these sizes numerous times and have never seen any image degradation. The Canon 20D will shoot large JPG around 48"x32".


Pixel count means absolutely nothing to actual physical measurements. You can shove 300 pixels per inch into an image, and the print size doesn't change. An inch is an inch, whether it has one pixel in it or 500 pixels in it, it's still an inch. Giving pixel dimensions tells you nothing about print size unless you know the ppi.

Using 300ppi as an example, you will get an image print size that is 12.64"x8.64". Divide 3792 by 300, and divide 2592 by 300. That's going to give you the pixel per inch measurement you need to know for print size. What you need to know is what the true ppi is of the image, and divide by that ppi to get your measurements.


All the technical talk about ppi and ratio and all that means nothing for actual native out of the camera physical print measurements. Take a picture, put it on the computer, and see what the actual physical dimensions are. For example, here are two screenshots showing what the full image dimensions are. The first one is at 72ppi, the other one is the same exact image at 300ppi. The physical measurements do not change. The only thing that changes is how many pixels are crammed into one inch...


IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Byte size: ZERO | PHOTOBUCKET ERROR IMAGE


IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Byte size: ZERO | PHOTOBUCKET ERROR IMAGE


Figure out what the ppi is of your image, and then divide the pixel dimensions by the ppi, that will give you your physical dimensions, and that's the largest you can print without losing image quality.

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Dec 25, 2009 11:11 |  #15

Figure out what the ppi is of your image, and then divide the pixel dimensions by the ppi, that will give you your physical dimensions, and that's the largest you can print without losing image quality.

Ppi is easily changed. It is a function of print size and pixel dimensions, not the opposite. As long as it doesn't drop below 180 you're golden and if it does a good uprezzing will put you back in business


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