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Apr 04, 2011 13:20 |  #2911

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Nice work Victor. I like #5 the best.

Managed to get cheap Amtrak tickets to D.C., shot the National Cherry Blossom Festival this past weekend.

Cool. I went a few times and it's really nice during the festival.




  
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The NYPD bastards are pissing me off....

http://nycc.org …ght-upper-west-side/50745 (external link)

She is probably doing her shopping and about to go home. Yet, she was stopped by a swat team of NYPD bastards. I think the NYPD has a big lawsuit coming.

Since the beginning of this year, the NYPD bastards are in full force trying to enforce traffic laws to all cyclists in NYC. Your grandpas and grandmas aren't spared from this. Next, is probably your 12 year-old having a fun day in the park riding. And will get assaulted by these NYPD bastards.


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Apr 05, 2011 10:53 |  #2913

TooManyShots wrote in post #12162302 (external link)
The NYPD bastards are pissing me off....

http://nycc.org …ght-upper-west-side/50745 (external link)

She is probably doing her shopping and about to go home. Yet, she was stopped by a swat team of NYPD bastards. I think the NYPD has a big lawsuit coming.

Since the beginning of this year, the NYPD bastards are in full force trying to enforce traffic laws to all cyclists in NYC. Your grandpas and grandmas aren't spared from this. Next, is probably your 12 year-old having a fun day in the park riding. And will get assaulted by these NYPD bastards.

Next time she wont run a red light ;)


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Apr 05, 2011 10:58 |  #2914

TooManyShots wrote in post #12162302 (external link)
The NYPD bastards are pissing me off....

http://nycc.org …ght-upper-west-side/50745 (external link)

She is probably doing her shopping and about to go home. Yet, she was stopped by a swat team of NYPD bastards. I think the NYPD has a big lawsuit coming.

Since the beginning of this year, the NYPD bastards are in full force trying to enforce traffic laws to all cyclists in NYC. Your grandpas and grandmas aren't spared from this. Next, is probably your 12 year-old having a fun day in the park riding. And will get assaulted by these NYPD bastards.

She ran a red light. IIRC, cyclist need to follow the same rules motorists do. It's for their own safety. What if she was hit by a city bus while crossing that red light? Where do you draw the line making exceptions for women, old folks, kids, etc. Illegal is illegal is illegal.

From all accounts, the unmarked cars did have sirens, the undercover cops did have badges around their necks, etc. Of course I wasn't there so I don't know but according to the link you provided that was the case.

Overkill? Sure. But the fact remains she broke the law then proceeded not to stop when ordered to stop. Bad things tend to happen when you don't stop when a cop asks you to stop.

I hope this doesn't end up in a lawsuit because in the end we end up paying for crap like this.




  
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Apr 05, 2011 11:03 |  #2915
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nicksan wrote in post #12162401 (external link)
She ran a red light. IIRC, cyclist need to follow the same rules motorists do. It's for their own safety. What if she was hit by a city bus while crossing that red light? Where do you draw the line making exceptions for women, old folks, kids, etc. Illegal is illegal is illegal.

From all accounts, the unmarked cars did have sirens, the undercover cops did have badges around their necks, etc. Of course I wasn't there so I don't know but according to the link you provided that was the case.

Overkill? Sure. But the fact remains she broke the law then proceeded not to stop when ordered to stop. Bad things tend to happen when you don't stop when a cop asks you to stop.

I hope this doesn't end up in a lawsuit because in the end we end up paying for crap like this.

It will. It was excessive. Instead of a cyclist, just imagine this person was jaywalking. No, the cops didn't ID themselves. She was probably thinking that the man was about to kidnap her and etc...The NYPD has it coming.. Back in 2006, the city lost a lawsuit over the handling of the Critical Mass.
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Apr 05, 2011 11:04 |  #2916

They are doing their job. What moron fights and kicks and screams at cops? Don't give me crap she didn't know they were cops. This wasn't at night on a dark deserted street. Gimme a break. I been hit twice by cyclists when I had the light. One years ago was going wrong way on 8th avenue. I had just picked up my hockey skates from being sharpened. He ran right into me. And to make it worse said to me, "why don't you watch where you're going" when that f'er was in the wrong and my knee was injured from his carelessness. That caused the then 21 yr old wild and crazy me to swing my skates and hit him in the head, knocking him on his ass. I then limped away and said no u watch wr the f u going ahole




  
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Apr 05, 2011 11:13 |  #2917

TooManyShots wrote in post #12162433 (external link)
It will. It was excessive. Instead of a cyclist, just imagine this person was jaywalking. No, the cops didn't ID themselves. She was probably thinking that the man was about to kidnap her and etc...The NYPD has it coming.. Back in 2006, the city lost a lawsuit over the handling of the Critical Mass.
http://www.nytimes.com …al.html?_r=2&re​f=nyregion (external link)

They settled, which is different than losing. Often times the city will settle with blood sucking New Yorkers b/c it's just cheaper to do so. Pisses me off every time a frivolous lawsuit is awarded because we all pay for it.

I am not denying that this was overkill. But the fact is she broke the law, resisted arrest, and have a bunch of sympathetic cyclists running their mouths in that board.

Looks like she's going to get a lawyer and sue. This country is so sue happy, it's sad.




  
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Apr 05, 2011 11:19 |  #2918

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They are doing their job. What moron fights and kicks and screams at cops? Don't give me crap she didn't know they were cops. This wasn't at night on a dark deserted street. Gimme a break. I been hit twice by cyclists when I had the light. One years ago was going wrong way on 8th avenue. I had just picked up my hockey skates from being sharpened. He ran right into me. And to make it worse said to me, "why don't you watch where you're going" when that f'er was in the wrong and my knee was injured from his carelessness. That caused the then 21 yr old wild and crazy me to swing my skates and hit him in the head, knocking him on his ass. I then limped away and said no u watch wr the f u going ahole

Damn right! Cyclists are always out there as if they own the street with no regard. This lady did the same thing when she ran that light and could have caused a mess if she was hit by a vehicle.

On that note mark that bold comment reminds me of this :lol:

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Apr 05, 2011 15:14 |  #2919

Umm.. I bike to school.. does that make me evil?
What if I go nikon AND I bike?


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Apr 05, 2011 15:50 |  #2920
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EiTheL wrote in post #12164177 (external link)
Umm.. I bike to school.. does that make me evil?
What if I go nikon AND I bike?


Good for you.....:) Many believe that if you can ride 15 miles each way to work is a monumental feat..... For the seasoned cyclists, there's hardly a warm up.

More of your tax dollars at work here and thanks to NYPD:
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I smell corruptions.........an​d phony contracts....


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Apr 05, 2011 15:51 |  #2921
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nicksan wrote in post #12162506 (external link)
They settled, which is different than losing. Often times the city will settle with blood sucking New Yorkers b/c it's just cheaper to do so. Pisses me off every time a frivolous lawsuit is awarded because we all pay for it.

I am not denying that this was overkill. But the fact is she broke the law, resisted arrest, and have a bunch of sympathetic cyclists running their mouths in that board.

Looks like she's going to get a lawyer and sue. This country is so sue happy, it's sad.

Be happy you are in America. In most places, you couldn't even sue the police for anything!!!!


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Apr 05, 2011 16:03 |  #2922

TooManyShots wrote in post #12164396 (external link)
Be happy you are in America. In most places, you couldn't even sue the police for anything!!!!

I don't have issues with lawsuits provided they are justified. A surgeon left a surgical blade inside your gut and stitched you up and released you? Yeah, sue them. It's the frivolous ones that are the ones that upset me. Sorry, but the lady in the bike is the perfect example.

Bottom line is, if you don't know the traffic laws, you shouldn't be on a bicycle or a motor vehicle. End of story.

Pretty simple. STOP when the light is red. It's frustrating that morons like this lady might get financially rewarded for being exactly that...a moron.




  
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Apr 05, 2011 16:04 |  #2923

EiTheL wrote in post #12164177 (external link)
Umm.. I bike to school.. does that make me evil?
What if I go nikon AND I bike?

No. But if you cross a red light and get hit by a Mack truck...then well...R.I.P. :lol:;)




  
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Apr 05, 2011 16:14 |  #2924
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No. But if you cross a red light and get hit by a Mack truck...then well...R.I.P. :lol:;)


Actually, that only happens if you get doored by parked cars. And you are knocked off to the ground while a truck or a car is coming up next to you. Going thur the red light is same as jaywalking. You look both ways and you proceed as you go. The NYPD will not win, period. Stopping cyclists from running the red light is as trying to stop people from littering.

More of your tax dollars at work here. Last month the NYPD setup a radar or speed gun section in Central Park to catch cyclists speeding. When the park was closed to cars. They cited that 15mph is the limit but in fact it is 25 mph for both cars and bikes. They decided to use the 15mph limit instead. They stopped doing that now. There was even an article about an officer visiting the home of one of the offenders and to apologizing writing the ticket. The offender was just an older gentlemen doing few laps in the park.

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Apr 05, 2011 16:24 |  #2925

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Actually, that only happens if you get doored by parked cars. And you are knocked off to the ground while a truck or a car is coming up next to you. Going thur the red light is same as jaywalking. You look both ways and you proceed as you go. The NYPD will not win, period. Stopping cyclists from running the red light is as trying to stop people from littering.

Actually, as pointed out earlier, cyclists need to follow the same traffic laws as motor vehicles, so not quite the same as jaywalking, although technically speaking jaywalking is indeed illegal and if a cop decides to ticket you for that, there's really nothing you can do about it no matter how silly it may be. Of course in NYC, that would be unreasonable b/c almost everyone will jaywalk. They can't go out arresting everyone.

But really, the biggest difference IMO is pedestrians don't pose nearly the same amount of danger as some reckless cyclists do. Oh yes, there are idiotic pedestrians trying to run across a street despite incoming traffic. Sure. But all too often, I see crazy cyclists almost causing an accident, hitting a pedestrian, zig-zagging through traffic, etc.

The NYPD won't win if the city feels it'll cost money to defend them. They will settle behind back doors. Got nothing to do with who's right and who's wrong. It has everything to do with what's cheaper. She'll hire a lawyer. They will come up with a ridiculous amount and if the city feels this will be dragged out, they will cough up the money. OUR money.

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More of your tax dollars at work here. Last month the NYPD setup a radar or speed gun section in Central Park to catch cyclists speeding. When the park was closed to cars. They cited that 15mph is the limit but in fact it is 25 mph for both cars and bikes. They decided to use the 15mph limit instead. They stopped doing that now. There was even an article about an officer visiting the home of one of the offenders and to apologizing writing the ticket. The offender was just an older gentlemen doing few laps in the park.

Not defending the NYPD at all. They certainly have their share of mishaps and corruption, just like any other city agency and I am sure you can bring up other stories ad nauseum. But the fact is, this lady ran a red light and it SHOULD BE end of story. Unfortunately in this country, it's not. To me, that's more of a waste than some of the stories you brought up.




  
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