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Apr 05, 2011 17:01 |  #2926

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That was a bit much. I read that they purposely set up in the park at 6 AM to ticket triathletes on their morning workout for speeding.

This followed up a community meeting where both sides were defiant towards each other. Some were of the opinion that traffic stop was a big middle finger to the cycling activists who criticized the city and the police. If so, that's immature and unprofessional to say the least.

Pretty soon you will have speeding cameras setup in the off trails as well :lol:


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Apr 05, 2011 17:21 |  #2927

Yeah I guess. It's like getting ticketed for driving 56mph instead of 55mph.




  
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Apr 05, 2011 17:43 |  #2928
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nicksan wrote in post #12164922 (external link)
Yeah I guess. It's like getting ticketed for driving 56mph instead of 55mph.


Legally, the police can't ticket you for speeding because there are no speeding signs any where in the park. Second, people on bikes don't have a speedometer. They were setting up a speed trap at the end of the downhill section. How freaking lame is that? I don't know. I normally ride in Prospect Park and really don't deal with these issues. However, I am involved in the local racing scene with race coverages. Wondering what on earth would happen when the weather gets warmer? You will have a whole family riding their bikes in the park and could be ticketed for various craps.

I couldn't wait to pay $5 a gallon for gas. See if people would still love their cars....:) And giving cyclists hard times.


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Apr 05, 2011 17:47 |  #2929

It's a good thing I am too lazy to ride a bike then.
Maybe I should buy a bike, run a red light, get accosted by some cops, then get rich quick.

I know that's how MDJAK got rich. He got gang raped by a bunch of authority figures and sued the city. :lol:




  
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Apr 05, 2011 20:33 |  #2930

Hey everyone. I will be in NYC until friday and I was wondering if anyone is available to meet up and shot some street stuff. I will only have very early mornings or nights open. Thanks!


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Apr 05, 2011 20:39 |  #2931

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Legally, the police can't ticket you for speeding because there are no speeding signs any where in the park. Second, people on bikes don't have a speedometer. They were setting up a speed trap at the end of the downhill section. How freaking lame is that? I don't know. I normally ride in Prospect Park and really don't deal with these issues. However, I am involved in the local racing scene with race coverages. Wondering what on earth would happen when the weather gets warmer? You will have a whole family riding their bikes in the park and could be ticketed for various craps.

I couldn't wait to pay $5 a gallon for gas. See if people would still love their cars....:) And giving cyclists hard times.

It would really be nice if you had a clue what you are talking about before you go spouting off.

There does NOT need to be any signs. The speed limit in NYC, and most other cities is either 30 or 35 mph, unless otherwise posted. That is pretty common knowledge.

And when is the last time you saw or read about a family riding bicycles who were harassed and ticketed by the cops?

You are taking one incident and blowing it out of proportion.

Do police over react at times? Of course they do. Their job is probably the most stressful and most dangerous one you could hold.

When your house gets burglarized, when you get robbed, who are you going to calll, a fellow bicyclist? No, I didn't think so.

So calm yourself down, stop insulting 25,000 brave souls of the NYPD for a what may be a few bad apples. There are good and bad in any organization.




  
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Apr 05, 2011 20:40 |  #2932

jasr wrote in post #12166136 (external link)
Hey everyone. I will be in NYC until friday and I was wondering if anyone is available to meet up and shot some street stuff. I will only have very early mornings or nights open. Thanks!

Shomat is on duty this week for that express purpose. He will be happy to school you with his 5D classic.

All he requires is that you push his automobile around the city because it's so old and feeble, it won't start. ;) :lol:
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Apr 05, 2011 21:10 |  #2933
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MDJAK wrote in post #12166171 (external link)
It would really be nice if you had a clue what you are talking about before you go spouting off.

There does NOT need to be any signs. The speed limit in NYC, and most other cities is either 30 or 35 mph, unless otherwise posted. That is pretty common knowledge.

And when is the last time you saw or read about a family riding bicycles who were harassed and ticketed by the cops?

You are taking one incident and blowing it out of proportion.

Do police over react at times? Of course they do. Their job is probably the most stressful and most dangerous one you could hold.

When your house gets burglarized, when you get robbed, who are you going to calll, a fellow bicyclist? No, I didn't think so.

So calm yourself down, stop insulting 25,000 brave souls of the NYPD for a what may be a few bad apples. There are good and bad in any organization.


Sorry Mark, they are blowing this out of proportion already. They will target all cyclists and already did. You think they will selectively pick which cyclists to get ticketed???? Really Mark? If the implied speed limit is 30 to 35 mph, why would cyclists getting ticketed for speeding???? Believe me, you need to be a pro to go 35 mph on a bike. I have no problems insulting the NYPD. I have more respects for the men and women serving the arm forces than these NYPD officers harassing cyclists. 2 police cruisers and 1 van, and some 5 to 6 officers to arrest a female cyclist who probably weights no more than 110 lb because she ran through a red light no faster than maybe 15 mph.


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Apr 05, 2011 22:41 |  #2934

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Sorry Mark, they are blowing this out of proportion already. They will target all cyclists and already did. You think they will selectively pick which cyclists to get ticketed???? Really Mark? If the implied speed limit is 30 to 35 mph, why would cyclists getting ticketed for speeding???? Believe me, you need to be a pro to go 35 mph on a bike. I have no problems insulting the NYPD. I have more respects for the men and women serving the arm forces than these NYPD officers harassing cyclists. 2 police cruisers and 1 van, and some 5 to 6 officers to arrest a female cyclist who probably weights no more than 110 lb because she ran through a red light no faster than maybe 15 mph.

Like Mark mentioned, don't generilze based on a few bad apples. No organization is perfect. You mentioned armed forces. You don't think bad sh*t doesn't happen with them too?

I think we all agree that the cops are overreacting. You'll always have some corruption, excessive force, etc, no matter what, when you put people in a position of power. This is certainly not unique to the NYPD. But I would guess the majority of them are there to protect and serve and when it's your turn to be protected and served, you'll be happy that they are there.

5 or 6 cops on a woman? Well, she ran a red light and kind of resisted arrest and these cops can't read minds. It blows my mind why this isn't cut and dry for some people. It is to me. When I run a red light with my vehicle, it doesn't matter whether I am going 1mph or 100mph. Doesn't matter if I am a 6'5" 20 year old or a tiny grandma. I still broke the law. They have to operate under the assumption that people who resist arrest pose a physical threat to them. Besides, running away from cops is a huge no-no. What if she was some kind of nut job with a gun in her purse? Better safe than sorry, especially if you are putting your life on the line. It may sound silly, but where do you draw the line? After someone gets hurt?




  
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Apr 05, 2011 22:52 |  #2935

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Like Mark mentioned, don't generilze based on a few bad apples. No organization is perfect. You mentioned armed forces. You don't think bad sh*t doesn't happen with them too?

I think we all agree that the cops are overreacting. You'll always have some corruption, excessive force, etc, no matter what, when you put people in a position of power. This is certainly not unique to the NYPD. But I would guess the majority of them are there to protect and serve and when it's your turn to be protected and served, you'll be happy that they are there.

5 or 6 cops on a woman? Well, she ran a red light and kind of resisted arrest and these cops can't read minds. It blows my mind why this isn't cut and dry for some people. It is to me. When I run a red light with my vehicle, it doesn't matter whether I am going 1mph or 100mph. Doesn't matter if I am a 6'5" 20 year old or a tiny grandma. I still broke the law. They have to operate under the assumption that people who resist arrest pose a physical threat to them. Besides, running away from cops is a huge no-no. What if she was some kind of nut job with a gun in her purse? Better safe than sorry, especially if you are putting your life on the line. It may sound silly, but where do you draw the line? After someone gets hurt?

so well said :p

also, some cyclist are selfish themselves, just because they're riding a bike and thinking they're not going to interrupt the traffic they think they can do anything they want. well guess what, there is the LAW for every vehicle in NYC, either you obey or bend the rules and stick up for the consequences.



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Apr 05, 2011 23:01 |  #2936
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nicksan wrote in post #12167009 (external link)
Like Mark mentioned, don't generilze based on a few bad apples. No organization is perfect. You mentioned armed forces. You don't think bad sh*t doesn't happen with them too?

I think we all agree that the cops are overreacting. You'll always have some corruption, excessive force, etc, no matter what, when you put people in a position of power. This is certainly not unique to the NYPD. But I would guess the majority of them are there to protect and serve and when it's your turn to be protected and served, you'll be happy that they are there.

5 or 6 cops on a woman? Well, she ran a red light and kind of resisted arrest and these cops can't read minds. It blows my mind why this isn't cut and dry for some people. It is to me. When I run a red light with my vehicle, it doesn't matter whether I am going 1mph or 100mph. Doesn't matter if I am a 6'5" 20 year old or a tiny grandma. I still broke the law. They have to operate under the assumption that people who resist arrest pose a physical threat to them. Besides, running away from cops is a huge no-no. What if she was some kind of nut job with a gun in her purse? Better safe than sorry, especially if you are putting your life on the line. It may sound silly, but where do you draw the line? After someone gets hurt?


Few bad apples??? http://bicycling.com …8/the-bikelash-continues/ (external link)

http://cyclistsinterna​tional.com/?p=181 (external link)

NYPD who????


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Apr 05, 2011 23:02 |  #2937
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Autonomous wrote in post #12167083 (external link)
so well said :p

also, some cyclist are selfish themselves, just because they're riding a bike and thinking they're not going to interrupt the traffic they think they can do anything they want. well guess what, there is the LAW for every vehicle in NYC, either you obey or bend the rules and stick up for the consequences.


Like I said, I couldn't wait to pay $5 a gallon for gas....go enjoy your car as you can now....


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Apr 05, 2011 23:09 |  #2938

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Like I said, I couldn't wait to pay $5 a gallon for gas....go enjoy your car as you can now....

well.. i don't drive so :eek: no worries



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Apr 05, 2011 23:16 |  #2939
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Autonomous wrote in post #12167195 (external link)
well.. i don't drive so :eek: no worries


Don't bike too. Don't you ever bike man. Not even letting your kids to bike too. You people are funny and hilarious and crazy too . Is like being a cyclist a genetic predisposition. At one point in your life as well as the lives of your family members, they must have ridden a bicycle!!! If not, you are certainly deprived in some ways... This is sad....:)


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Apr 06, 2011 00:17 |  #2940

Just wait till this nanny state mandates bikes to carry insurance and registration. Then the real taxation will begin lol.


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