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Dec 29, 2009 18:52 |  #1

I took a shot of a gray card for 300 sec at f4.0. Then I halved the aperature to f8.0 whilst doubling the shutter speed to 600 sec. The two pictures in theory should match, but the second shot is underexposed. Can this be a result of some sort of shutter speed inverse square law that throws off the math.




  
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Dec 29, 2009 19:26 |  #2

Film sensitivity isn't linear with such long exposures, but in this case it ought to be. Sure illumination was the same?


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Dec 29, 2009 19:29 |  #3

Reseach Reciprocity here:
http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Reciprocity_(ph​otography (external link))




  
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Dec 29, 2009 20:12 as a reply to  @ pcunite's post |  #4

The light was constant, but he results weren't linear. I use th 5DMarkii


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Dec 29, 2009 20:23 |  #5

Proper exposure for twice as much time is an aperture 1 stop further closed, which would have been f/5.6, rather than f/8.0. This passes half the light. f-stop designations do not halve or double the same way that shutter speeds do.

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I took a shot of a gray card for 300 sec at f4.0. Then I halved the aperature to f8.0 whilst doubling the shutter speed to 600 sec. The two pictures in theory should match, but the second shot is underexposed. Can this be a result of some sort of shutter speed inverse square law that throws off the math.




  
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Dec 29, 2009 20:38 |  #6

EdZep wrote in post #9286257 (external link)
Proper exposure for twice as much time is an aperture 1 stop further closed, which would have been f/5.6, rather than f/8.0. This passes half the light. f-stop designations do not halve or double the same way that shutter speeds do.

^^ +1. Should be f/5.6 @ 600 seconds. :)


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Dec 29, 2009 20:44 as a reply to  @ PacAce's post |  #7

I'm going senile.




  
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Dec 29, 2009 20:53 |  #8

texshooter wrote in post #9286400 (external link)
I'm going senile.

No, you're not. It's an understandable mistake most of us make at one point or another. ;)


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Dec 29, 2009 21:03 as a reply to  @ PacAce's post |  #9

Simple brain lapse. Heh, how many people read your post and didn't catch the slip?




  
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Dec 29, 2009 21:18 |  #10

texshooter wrote in post #9285709 (external link)
I took a shot of a gray card for 300 sec at f4.0. Then I halved the aperature to f8.0 whilst doubling the shutter speed to 600 sec. The two pictures in theory should match, but the second shot is underexposed. Can this be a result of some sort of shutter speed inverse square law that throws off the math.

You goofed with your understanding of f-stop settings. One full stop from f/4 is f/5.6, not f/8.

Full-stop F-stop setting changes progress by a factor of 1.414, not 2. 1.414 is the square root of 2. This is because we are dealing with the area of the "hole" in the lens.

PS - others caught on too. I replied after reading only the first post.  :p


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Dec 29, 2009 21:33 as a reply to  @ SkipD's post |  #11

EdZep wrote in post #9286504 (external link)
Simple brain lapse. Heh, how many people read your post and didn't catch the slip?

This guy. :(

I was thinking to myself -- f4 to f8 is two stops, so that means twice the light and so 300s to 600s should be good. What am I missing? :lol:


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Dec 29, 2009 21:38 |  #12

I don't get it, 8 is 2x 4, so it should be double....

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Dec 29, 2009 22:11 |  #13

My first thought when reading the OP, was "wow, what a geek". I didn't even catch the simple error.

That is the cool thing about digital photography though, it costs you nothing to try.


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Dec 29, 2009 22:24 |  #14

I let my light meter tell me what's what. Never did a pic that was longer than 25 seconds or so:

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Dec 29, 2009 22:37 as a reply to  @ Erik_L's post |  #15

What are you crazy people talking about??????????


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