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Jun 21, 2012 02:48 |  #10636

Marm O. Set wrote in post #14600190 (external link)
another piece for my "Man's Idea of Nature" series. We have this row of 25ish trees that all look eerily similar. 25 little lollipops lining the road. Very contrived, very manufactured, extremely insulting IMO. A little splash of nature to fit neatly into the tiny space that the developer decided will have some trees. Some small, uniform, very manageable trees and now we can check the "nature" checkbox on our developing requirements. Don't want our nature to be overly natural, after all.
Wow. I think I just mini-ranted. Anyway.
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While I don't necessarily agree with your anger, I think that your concept is pretty darn cool (if anything, at least you HAVE a concept, you're trying to convey a message, and you're thinking about overall presentation).

That being said...I'm not sure that those five trees are sufficient. I mean, I see that they are all nearly identical, but what those five images does NOT convey is the sheer SCALE of nature as a mass-created product.

I generally try to avoid comments such as "What I'd like to see is...". Because really, what I'd like to see is irrelevant, and I have no idea if you tried what I'm about to suggest.

But I'm gonna do that anyway. What I'd like to see is just a LOT of these photographs presented in a way (physical media, not digital) which just inundates me with pointless repetition. Would it look stupid? Probably. Would it be painful and/or boring and tedious to look at? Maybe. Would the images be redundant? I almost guarantee it.

But would it better get your message across? Maybe not, but I think it's worth a try.

And can you think of anyone else who did that? Like, done a massive series of 3 dozen prints, with each individual image almsot a clone of all the others, and with the express intent of making viewers want to STOP looking at that after the first few images? I don't know. Bit I can't think of anyone who did anything like that. If I ever walked into a gallery and saw that kind of crap, I'd probably be annoyed as hell. But I'll be damned if I wouldn't remember it, because I have NEVER seen anyone do that **** before.

Anyway, never mind about me saying that I'd "like to see that". I wouldn't like that at all, I'd probably HATE it. But...that's kind of the entire POINT, isn't it? I guarantee...this kind of thing (if done right), could very likely piss me off AND be memorable AND make me totally love it in a weird and sadistic way.

Again...I hate comments like "you should do this." But have you tried doing that? Have you considered trying to do that? Again...I don't neessarily agree with your take on the issue, but I think that the overall idea is valid as hell. And though what you've shown is very cool, I don't think you've quite gone far enough. Because looking at those images in that nice tidy easy-to-look-at presentation DOESN'T quite convey the sentiments that you expressed. It's a start, but I think it could maybe stand to be taken farther (and not necessarily in the way that I suggested).




  
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Jun 21, 2012 08:58 as a reply to  @ Clean Gene's post |  #10637

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I'm really digging this!


I hope to add to this thread sometime relatively soon ... I've been insanely busy freelancing and have been too tired to sort through my photos for this. All your pictures look great guys!


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Jun 21, 2012 09:36 |  #10638

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I'm really digging this!


Thanks, mlv..!

You’re missed here. :)


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Jun 21, 2012 20:39 |  #10639

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Jun 21, 2012 21:09 |  #10640

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Jun 21, 2012 21:15 |  #10641

Clean Gene wrote in post #14610097 (external link)
*suggestions, ideas,and concepts*

Thanks for the feedback.
I have definitely considered some of the ideas you tossed around! Alot of my project 365 is proof-of-concepts. I have an idea in my head and I want to quickly flesh it out. If the idea works then I might finesse it later, if it doesn't work then I will re-evaluate and try again if it is important to me. I really like my manufactured nature series (I'm not really angry about it, it's more of a commentary) and I'm positive I will develop it after my 365 is over. I'm definitely not going to do a project 365 next year (unless I start earning a living off of my photography ;)) because I'd rather have quality over quantity. Many times I end up forcing a photo just to post something. I'd rather not have posted the 5 trees in the format that they got posted... I would much rather post a final project (or show a final project) instead of a proof of concept.

The way I envisioned this going is similar to the things you suggested. Many trees, different settings, all very similar but not the same. I like working in film so they'd probably be medium format B&W prints (I only have a 35mm SLR right now :() I am hoping to get a bunch of trees (50? 100?) that look so similar that the viewer automatically assumes they are all the same tree. Just like you said, overwhelm the viewer and make him mad that you wasted his time with the same photo over and over and over and over...

Like I said before, I really appreciate your feedback. It's nice to know that someone noticed the photos:)

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="CleanGene"]And though what you've shown is very cool, I don't think you've quite gone far enough. Because looking at those images in that nice tidy easy-to-look-at presentation DOESN'T quite convey the sentiments that you expressed. It's a start, but I think it could maybe stand to be taken farther (and not necessarily in the way that I suggested).

I completely agree and I need to spend some time thinking about this aspect of the project. :)

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Jun 21, 2012 21:33 |  #10642

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Jun 21, 2012 21:50 as a reply to  @ meglet's post |  #10643

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Jun 22, 2012 17:27 |  #10644

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pretty much SOOC for once; its almost like I'm learning something :)

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Jun 22, 2012 19:17 as a reply to  @ Marm O. Set's post |  #10645

^ Very cool.


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Jun 22, 2012 19:59 |  #10646

Thanks... like I said it is pretty much SOOC. But when I look at it, it sure does look faaaaaake :(


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Jun 22, 2012 20:23 |  #10648

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Jun 22, 2012 21:13 |  #10649

Marm O. Set wrote in post #14617887 (external link)
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I don't think it looks fake - I think it looks cool ;)


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Jun 22, 2012 22:05 as a reply to  @ emelvee's post |  #10650

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