Talk me out of it..

J.Napier wrote in post #9310581
Dave,
You my have just missed a sweet deal fairly close to you over on FM check out the link.

http://www.fredmiranda​.com/forum/topic/84579​5

650 miles isn't that close.

If you have the money to get a 400 understanding it's a long term investment you'd be a complete idiot not to get one. I don't use IS all that often, but when you need it it's sure nice to have.

...don't mind the fat guy going through your mail daily btw, I just don't want to wait till Spring Training to get a IV.

I have one for sale so you should buy mine

canonnoob wrote in post #9309720
you know as soon as it gets here I shall be posting..

Somebody buy stock in this kid, he's got a future.


Awaiting the MkIV posts Dave...

eigga wrote in post #9311526
I have one for sale so you should buy mine

lol well see about that.

Photon Phil wrote in post #9311576
Somebody buy stock in this kid, he's got a future.


Awaiting the MkIV posts Dave...

lol well thanks.

I'd say go for it on getting the 400, but beef up your lighting gear and spend some time with your mIV before diving on a second mIV body.

Having more strobes opens all sorts of creative possibility when shooting portraits. If you're a 1-man shooter, looking into the CyberCommander system might be handy. Having additional strobes is also great when covering hockey, basketball and other flash-friendly indoor sports.

Another lighting option to consider is the Quantum QFlash.
It's far more powerful than a speed light, but much more portable than the ABs. Bracket mountable with a battery pack, it's great for impromptu portrait work, daylight fill flash and great for getting action shots from night games.

The extra lighting is not "required" ... but they open up far more creative and coverage options than simply having a second mIV body.

NickJushchyshyn wrote in post #9312092
I'd say go for it on getting the 400, but beef up your lighting gear and spend some time with your mIV before diving on a second mIV body.

Having more strobes opens all sorts of creative possibility when shooting portraits. If you're a 1-man shooter, looking into the CyberCommander system might be handy. Having additional strobes is also great when covering hockey, basketball and other flash-friendly indoor sports.

Another lighting option to consider is the Quantum QFlash.
It's far more powerful than a speed light, but much more portable than the ABs. Bracket mountable with a battery pack, it's great for impromptu portrait work, daylight fill flash and great for getting action shots from night games.

The extra lighting is not "required" ... but they open up far more creative and coverage options than simply having a second mIV body.

I have no use for the cybercommander as I am not in a studio setting. I have no use in extra lighting really unless I wanted to pump two more b800s out. I might buy some Vag's

anyway.. well after this morning it doesnt look like any of this will be happening anyway. we got about 6-8 inches of snow and i crashed my car.. so that needs to be taken care of first. bummer..

J.Napier wrote in post #9309682
I would love to see some shots from your M4 though. Low light situations would be awsome.Please post some!

Most of photos here are taken with mk4 (yeah I know too small sample to see much, and iso is not really in 1000+ range). I obviously screwed up with color settings, since neutral picture style makes **** out of photos (really low contrast, really low saturation), but otherwise it feels like nice camera. And af feels like working really good this time... even for speed around 100km/h when they are coming straight down at you. And that's pretty nice thing, considering we gave up mk3 around body #4 or 5.

Pro or non-pro doesn't really matter. What matters is how you lug that lens around. For anything you mentioned it's fine, since you bring it with car almost to sidelines. In my case, I'm skiing down the slope (or sometimes even walking) with all equipment in backpack. For this, you really don't want extra kilo or two compared to 300/2.8 or 500/4.
To be honest, for soccer I would consider 400/2.8 as ideal lens, while for basketball it's way too long (at least for Euroleague matches around here). But I have no idea about football and baseball, since these two sports literally doesn't exist here

primoz wrote in post #9315592
Pro or non-pro doesn't really matter. What matters is how you lug that lens around. For anything you mentioned it's fine, since you bring it with car almost to sidelines. In my case, I'm skiing down the slope (or sometimes even walking) with all equipment in backpack. For this, you really don't want extra kilo or two compared to 300/2.8 or 500/4.
To be honest, for soccer I would consider 400/2.8 as ideal lens, while for basketball it's way too long (at least for Euroleague matches around here). But I have no idea about football and baseball, since these two sports literally doesn't exist here

totally understandable... I see this more of a soccer/football/baseba​ll lens than anything. my 300 will also double up with it as well for those. I dont even go over 200 mm on a crop for basketball because I find anything longer is too long. But that is just my shooting style.

J.Napier wrote in post #9310581
Dave,
You my have just missed a sweet deal fairly close to you over on FM check out the link.

http://www.fredmiranda​.com/forum/topic/84579​5

I didn't read that whole thread, but where did the OP say he was located? That was listed in the Minneapolis Craigslist several times recently.

canonnoob wrote in post #9315394
I have no use for the cybercommander as I am not in a studio setting. I have no use in extra lighting really unless I wanted to pump two more b800s out. I might buy some Vag's

I generally feel the same way, but last soccer season I had 2-3 night-time portrait shoots where I was shooting team and player portraits at their field lit with a set of 4 strobes. I arrived very early to setup and do test shooting to finally adjust the power of the lights to where I liked ... but it would have gone a lot faster and easier if I had a commander instead of walking around adjusting each light individually to get the look I was after.
Given that experience, (and several instances of needed to cover multiple gyms at single venue ... or very very large rooms), I'd personally still be considering adding more lighting rather than a second mIV body in a situation where I already had another 1D body as backup.

canonnoob wrote in post #9315394
anyway.. well after this morning it doesnt look like any of this will be happening anyway. we got about 6-8 inches of snow and i crashed my car.. so that needs to be taken care of first. bummer..

Argh. that sucks. hope you and everyone involved are OK.
Guess you have to be careful what you wish for when you start up an open "talk me out of it thread". Never know where the answer is going to come from.
Good luck.

BenJohnson wrote in post #9316360
I didn't read that whole thread, but where did the OP say he was located? That was listed in the Minneapolis Craigslist several times recently.

From the first post:

primoz wrote in post #9315580
Most of photos here are taken with mk4 (yeah I know too small sample to see much, and iso is not really in 1000+ range). I obviously screwed up with color settings, since neutral picture style makes **** out of photos (really low contrast, really low saturation), but otherwise it feels like nice camera. And af feels like working really good this time... even for speed around 100km/h when they are coming straight down at you. And that's pretty nice thing, considering we gave up mk3 around body #4 or 5.

Thanks Primoz for the samples.

DDCSD wrote in post #9310789
650 miles isn't that close.

Maybe not, but if I was in the market for this lens at a $700.00 or better savings I would drive the 325 miles (1/2 way) to avoid the risk of shipping, but I was driving that twice a week a few months ago every week fro the last 5 years. But then again it usually only rains around here not snow.

canonnoob wrote in post #9309692
i recently won a nice little bit of money on those scratcher tickets lol... and so i am looking at getting something nice lol..

I am still waiting on the 1dIV to hit my door step but i do know it is enroute.

Here's living proof the nice guys don't finish last!

Darn it, you're making me want to be more nice... so hard... must try.......... ... ... ... ... ... (see that's smiling... I'm nice too... someone buy me a lottery ticket...).

BTW, you still owe me $2000USD, feel free to send it to me soon, PM for payment instructions... oh and don't worry if you don't remember you owe me money. It's payment for memory loss treatment.... don't forget now`~`~`!! (darn it couldn't find the one key).

canonnoob wrote in post #9315394
anyway.. well after this morning it doesnt look like any of this will be happening anyway. we got about 6-8 inches of snow and i crashed my car.. so that needs to be taken care of first. bummer..

Opps, spoke too soon... still at least you have the money to get it fixed.