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Larry ­ Weinman
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Jan 06, 2010 08:01 |  #1

We all have heard that keeping the AF speed adjustment set on slow is recommended for birds in flight but how about general photography? What are the benfits and negatives of various adjustments?


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Jan 06, 2010 08:06 |  #2

You can not adjust AF speed. You can only adjust AI Servo tracking sensitivity. Is that what you mean? You don't use AI Servo in general photography. It is only used for tracking fast moving subjects, whose focus distance is changing rapidly.


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Jan 06, 2010 08:11 |  #3

Sorry, that is what I meant, but sometimes I do use servo in general photography. I just womdered what I would gain or lose by setting this adjustment at different speeds. The manual seems overly basic on this adjustment


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Jan 06, 2010 08:21 |  #4

I use AI Servo when shooting my kid's hockey games. I think your choice of sensitivity would depend a lot on which focus points you are using, and the type subject or subjects you are shooting. I tried changing the tracking sensitivity but went back to default because I still haven't really decided which AF area works best for tracking hockey players.


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Jan 06, 2010 08:23 |  #5

I haven't fully tested it yet. However, for shooting sports, I decided to try slowing it down one setting (goes two each way). I did notice a difference from the factory center setting. My thought process was that slower sensitivity (not making as quick an adjustment) actually enhanced my ability to stay on that moving target because it was less likely to shift to another target if I lost the target for split second, same as if a bird in flight passed behind a tree. Downside? I don't know. I suppose if the target is moving directly toward or away from me, that there is potential for a slightly less sharp photograph.

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Jan 06, 2010 08:24 |  #6

Thanks for your response. I am pretty much where you are at regarding this adjustment. For now I will stay at the default setting.


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Jan 06, 2010 08:49 as a reply to  @ Larry Weinman's post |  #7

When I know I'll be changing subjects a lot I usually have my sensitivity up the max.




  
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Jan 06, 2010 08:53 |  #8

GW2 wrote in post #9335517 (external link)
I suppose if the target is moving directly toward or away from me, that there is potential for a slightly less sharp photograph.

No, there is not. The naming of this setting isn't too clever.

AI Servo II AF is about two things:


  1. Keep focus on the tracked subject.
  2. Decide when and where to re-acquire focus, once tracking failed.
In the first case, this setting changes nothing at all. Regardless of the setting of C.Fn III-1, predictive AF tracking works the same. Handover to alternate AF points, if you are using more than one, is just as fast.

It's the second case that's controlled by this custom function.
If you are tracking a subject with one AF point, and suddenly the camera is out of focus, there could be several reasons. The camera was perhaps predicting a movement towards you, but the subject stopped quickly and went the other way. Or (more likely) you moved the camera so the AF point is now not longer covering the subject, but the background. Or something came in between you and the subject.
When this happens, the camera will hold foucs, or move it according to the previously calculated prediction, for a certain time, to see if the subject comes back into focus. After that time, it will give up and try to re-focus on whatever is now covered by the AF point.
It's this time delay you set with C.Fn III-1 on the 7D. As far as I've seen, Canon haven't published the actual times for the 7D, but they did for the 1D Mark II. If they haven't changed them, the settings are 1.0, 0.75, 0.5, 0.25 and 0.125 seconds, respectively.

Also note that the specific cause that some subject shows up closer to you is further controlled by C.Fn III-3. If that's set at the default, a subject showing up between you and the subject always takes immediate priority, if the main AF point sees it.
What is the main AF point depends upon the AF point selection mode.
  • If you use one point, it's obvious.
  • If you use one point with expansion, it's the center point (the selected one).
  • When using all points with automatic selection, it's the one you've chosen as the starting point.
  • If you use zone AF, it's the currently tracking point(s).

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Jan 06, 2010 09:51 |  #9

I leve mine set to slow for all subjects mostly BIF shots as its easy to refocus onto something else by just pumping the shutter .
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