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Jan 09, 2010 16:00 as a reply to  @ post 9360025 |  #16

It really depends what you are shooting the ability to use huge numbers like F32 and have the images TACK sharp all across the frame cannot be done with a 35mm camera. Most high end jewelry, watch shooters use MF. I would assume its the same for automotive shoots as well? This link is the the Leica S2 not quite MF but close it has 38MP so the files are large!

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Jan 09, 2010 16:03 |  #17

The big problem is the MF backs are also croppers in reality, I don't believe anyone makes a true MF sized back yet, the largest sensor is about 40mm x 50mm, so you have the same problem with wide angle lenses for them as you did when the original Digital crop sensors were released.


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Jan 09, 2010 16:08 |  #18

EdBray wrote in post #9360065 (external link)
The big problem is the MF backs are also croppers in reality, I don't believe anyone makes a true MF sized back yet, the largest sensor is about 40mm x 50mm, so you have the same problem with wide angle lenses for them as you did when the original Digital crop sensors were released.

What about RED's new 261 MP monster sensor is that thing going to have a FF or will it crop slightly? Thats like what 28K by 9K image size. I guess only time will tell but if it works OK I think Mamiya, Phase One and Hassy are done for. Unless they drop their prices considerably?


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Jan 09, 2010 16:19 |  #19

EdBray wrote in post #9360065 (external link)
The big problem is the MF backs are also croppers in reality, I don't believe anyone makes a true MF sized back yet, the largest sensor is about 40mm x 50mm, so you have the same problem with wide angle lenses for them as you did when the original Digital crop sensors were released.

Phase One's P65+ is 40.4mmx53.9mm, I think that's as big as it gets.


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Jan 09, 2010 16:23 as a reply to  @ Vascilli's post |  #20

Red's Largest sensor!
186X56mm 261 Megapixel sensor


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Jan 09, 2010 16:26 |  #21

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Red's Largest sensor!
186X56mm 261 Megapixel sensor

But the Phase1 is a tangible back that you can purchase, the RED sensor is not actually available anywhere for purchase!


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Jan 09, 2010 16:28 |  #22

maybe an a900?

Dynamic Range

This, together with resolution, is an area where the A900's sensor sings. I have rarely seen such wide dynamic range from any camera, including some medium format backs. On my shoot in Arizona I was able to capture scenes with brilliantly illuminated clouds along with deep shadows, and hold detail in both places. When combined with the sensor's high resolution, for landscape work its hard to think of another camera currently available that is a more suitable tool, and at under $3,000 this level of performance is unparalleled. Just a few years ago it took a medium format back costing $30,000 to generate comparable images. And while today's MF backs still have an edge, the price differential is significant.

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Jan 09, 2010 18:20 |  #23

EdBray wrote in post #9360065 (external link)
The big problem is the MF backs are also croppers in reality, I don't believe anyone makes a true MF sized back yet, the largest sensor is about 40mm x 50mm, so you have the same problem with wide angle lenses for them as you did when the original Digital crop sensors were released.

phase ones new range have a few that is not cropped but x 1,0


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Jan 10, 2010 07:59 |  #24

Sorry, i just have H3DII-39 which is not a full frame medium format, also i don't have a 5DII to make a comparison, my 1DsIII is not qualified for comparison test when many here prefer 5DII over 1DsIII.
And i hope i can use my H3DII-39 fair enough before i replace it with H4D-60.


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Jan 10, 2010 08:02 |  #25

I am now in our photography club, and i am planning to shoot few boring portrait of a friend here with my H3DII-39 for some fine art if i can, my 1DsIII just crying in my bag.


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Jan 10, 2010 08:05 |  #26

Tareq wrote in post #9363863 (external link)
I am now in our photography club, and i am planning to shoot few boring portrait of a friend here with my H3DII-39 for some fine art if i can, my 1DsIII just crying in my bag.

hehehehe!!!


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Jan 10, 2010 08:56 |  #27

tareq, how vast is the difference in the overall image between the hassy and the 1dsiii??? not just IQ, but contrast, bokeh, tonality, etc.?


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Jan 10, 2010 09:16 |  #28

kauffman v36 wrote in post #9364058 (external link)
tareq, how vast is the difference in the overall image between the hassy and the 1dsiii??? not just IQ, but contrast, bokeh, tonality, etc.?

I can't explain, also i can't tell until you can do it yourself, many here will say you will not see any difference with web or even original size, so how can i make that difference?
To my eye, i see a difference in IQ, color, contrast, DR, tonality, not sure about bokeh but not so important, H3DII is the winner, just ignore the ISO as with ISO 200 or ISO 400 the H3DII is out.


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Jan 10, 2010 10:15 as a reply to  @ Tareq's post |  #29

Thats awesome everyone is talking about a HUGE difference between FF and 1.3 and then someone asks about a sensor that is like twice the size. We are all kids with BB guns and Tareq comes along with his Colt .45 and wants to play!

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Jan 10, 2010 10:31 |  #30

xarqi wrote in post #9359520 (external link)
Perspective and angle of view are quite different things. Perspective depends entirely upon the distance to the subject.

"perspective (angle of view)" refers to change in relative apparent size of foreground and background objects as focal length is changed.




  
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