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Canon 5D Mark II vs Medium Format Body?

 
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Jan 10, 2010 10:34 |  #31

Tareq wrote in post #9364142 (external link)
I can't explain, also i can't tell until you can do it yourself, many here will say you will not see any difference with web or even original size, so how can i make that difference?
To my eye, i see a difference in IQ, color, contrast, DR, tonality, not sure about bokeh but not so important, H3DII is the winner, just ignore the ISO as with ISO 200 or ISO 400 the H3DII is out.

i know what you mean. its really hard to explain to someone the difference between the 35mm image and an image from my RZ67proii unless they see first hand. even at resized images i can see a difference.


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Jan 10, 2010 10:34 |  #32

Here is an older article comparing a 1dsII to a P25

http://luminous-landscape.com …ras/1ds-mk11-vs-p25.shtml (external link)


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Jan 10, 2010 10:45 |  #33

I may try to shoot something with my 1DsIII and Hassy but the problem is that there are some factors may affect the results, so i dunno how i can make less variables between the bodies to make that comparison more accurate or at least identical, but if just do normal comparison tests then i will sure make that H3DII win and blow away all 35mm DSLRs no mercy.

I will post something from my H3D and 1DsIII rather than what i did before in my own thread, so will see how it perform face to face, anyone can donate me his 5DII for the test rather than i donate my H3DII? ;-)a


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Jan 10, 2010 10:48 |  #34

Tareq wrote in post #9364550 (external link)
I may try to shoot something with my 1DsIII and Hassy but the problem is that there are some factors may affect the results, so i dunno how i can make less variables between the bodies to make that comparison more accurate or at least identical, but if just do normal comparison tests then i will sure make that H3DII win and blow away all 35mm DSLRs no mercy.

I will post something from my H3D and 1DsIII rather than what i did before in my own thread, so will see how it perform face to face, anyone can donate me his 5DII for the test rather than i donate my H3DII? ;-)a

we could just trade - no donation :)


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Jan 10, 2010 11:18 |  #35

zincozinco wrote in post #9364564 (external link)
we could just trade - no donation :)

OK no problem, I will accept $18k only including the shipping ;):lol:


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Jan 10, 2010 11:23 |  #36

For what it's worth

DXOMark comparison between the H3DII and 5DMKII

http://www.dxomark.com …Hasselblad/(bra​nd2)/Canon (external link)

Here is a review comparing the H3DII to a 5D, not 5D2

http://www.photoprotip​s.com/20071024/5d-vs-h3dii/ (external link)


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Jan 10, 2010 12:42 |  #37

Tareq wrote in post #9364713 (external link)
OK no problem, I will accept $18k only including the shipping ;):lol:

is that the ultra fast UPS - sound expensive.... :)


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Jan 10, 2010 12:49 |  #38

bohdank wrote in post #9364743 (external link)
For what it's worth

DXOMark comparison between the H3DII and 5DMKII

http://www.dxomark.com …Hasselblad/(bra​nd2)/Canon (external link)

Here is a review comparing the H3DII to a 5D, not 5D2

http://www.photoprotip​s.com/20071024/5d-vs-h3dii/ (external link)

funny thing in the review if you read with a loupe - they say the H3DII does 0.7 frames per second. so basically all your exposures have to be in the .3 of a second as the fastest.... :-P


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Jan 10, 2010 13:04 |  #39

Gene save your money on a medium format rig. It gets very pricey. I have shot LF and MF and 35 in film and the 5DII is my home base for MF quality digital imaging (non pro). Far more portable and feature rich. And inexpensive relatively speaking. With the 5DII you can print 17x22 at 300dpi.




  
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Jan 10, 2010 14:13 |  #40

To the OP, if you care about high ISO shooting, the 5D Mk II (or one of Nikons FF) are going to be much better than anything, including MF.

MF can provide better images, but just like the difference in a 5D Mk II and a Rebel isn't really all that major, MF will be the same way. A 5D Mk II provides much better images when blown up big, and better high ISO. A MF body will provide way better quality at huge sizes (don't shoot a billboard on a Rebel!) But there are major tradeoffs in flexability. I don't know if any of the MF bodies even use USM/HSM/SSM, and I expect the autofocus systems at best are 40D/50D/5D level, I doubt any are near the 7D/1D bodies. Additionally they are bigger, heavier, and much more expensive.

However, if you want the absolute best image quality for controlled studio or landscape situations, esp if you want things blown up, MF is going to be better.

One other thing to consider. I wanted to know more about medium format so I went out and bought an old Mamiya C220. I only paid $150 for it. It is a good way to play with medium format and see what it is about. Of course a proper scan to do the negatives justice will cost about as much as the camera.


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Jan 10, 2010 15:02 as a reply to  @ laydros's post |  #41

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Jan 10, 2010 15:12 |  #42

Impressive detail there, Tareq.

This thread has gone down the medium format route (and has been interesting to read), but I think the OP meant APS-H when he talked of "medium frame", given what he also said about high ISO and shooting speed.


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Jan 10, 2010 15:13 |  #43

I researched extensively moving to MFD. I decided against it not because of excellent image quality, it is excellent , but because of workflow. From the time you go to a site to photograph until your looking at the final image/print MFD is a huge waste of money and time unless money and time are not important to you or your customers.

Shoot MFD for fun not for business is my take. Let customers rent them for you if they need it. Don't foot the bill yourself.




  
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Jan 10, 2010 15:19 |  #44

siriusdogstar wrote in post #9364477 (external link)
"perspective (angle of view)" refers to change in relative apparent size of foreground and background objects as focal length is changed.

Correct, provided you replace "focal length" with "distance", since distance, and only distance, affects perspective.




  
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Jan 10, 2010 15:20 as a reply to  @ pcunite's post |  #45

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